# which yoyo is better?
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-better/6165
**Category:** General Yo-Yo
**Created:** [September 3, 2009, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-better/6165 "2009-09-03T07:41:22Z")
**Posts on this page:** 9
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### Author:  [@Rookie\_yo-player](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Rookie_yo-player)
#### Post date: [September 3, 2009, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-better/6165/1 "2009-09-03T07:41:22Z")
Dark magic
vs
Speeder
```auto
how long can dark magic "spin"???
Also~how long can speeder "spin"????
```
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### Author:  [@Domin123](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Domin123)
#### Post date: [September 3, 2009, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-better/6165/2 "2009-09-03T13:57:23Z")
There is no “better” yoyo really. State your preferences(if you have any). If not, since your favourite yoyo is speedmaker, I would recommend the speeder, since its shape is similar to the speedmaker. If you want to try a new shape, I would recommend the Dark Magic.
As for the spin times, it really depends on your throw. But if you are asking which one has longer sleep times, I would think a speeder, since it has more concentrated rim weight.
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### Author:  [@Pheenix](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Pheenix)
#### Post date: [September 3, 2009, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-better/6165/3 "2009-09-03T14:30:49Z")
The best yoyo is the one you like best. Try to figure that out, they are very different and you are likely to hold one higher than the other.
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### Author:  [@Baileyatg](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Baileyatg)
#### Post date: [September 3, 2009, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-better/6165/4 "2009-09-03T16:36:28Z")
if you like fast tricks like mickey does then the speeder is for you. if you like complicated tricks then the dark magic is for you
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### Author:  [@Rookie\_yo-player](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Rookie_yo-player)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2009, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-better/6165/5 "2009-09-04T07:17:24Z")
in fact ,i love to play 1A than 4A,since it is a bit easier to handle.
i played yo-yo for a short period ,so i cannot play fast as mickey.Also ,i play quite show~;D
i am going to reach the"MASTER" level in this website.
Hope you guys can give me a nice suggestion for buying a new yo-yo 😛
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### Author:  [@mikey77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mikey77)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2009, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-better/6165/6 "2009-09-04T23:10:38Z")
DM!
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### Author:  [@SR1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SR1)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2009, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-better/6165/7 "2009-09-04T23:16:08Z")
> [@Rookie\_yo-player](#):
>
> Dark magic
>
> vs
>
> Speeder
>
> ```auto
> how long can dark magic "spin"???
> Also~how long can speeder "spin"????
>
> ```
No yo-yo is better than the other. Spin times depend on your throw, it is different for everyone. Both the DM and the Speeder are very good yo-yo’s.
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### Author:  [@rsmod123](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rsmod123)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2009, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-better/6165/8 "2009-09-05T01:07:02Z")
If you really like your speedmaker, get a speeder. Dark magics are almost 1½ the width of a speedmaker. If you’re used to the speedmaker, a narrow yoyo, you probably will have a hard time getting used the the dark magic, which is a really fat yoyo.
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### Author:  [@anthony2025](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anthony2025)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2009, 2:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-better/6165/9 "2009-09-05T02:22:12Z")
```
Bi Metal - Plastic
```
Light: Speeder - Speed Maker
Heavy: DM - Legacy
That is all about preference, but I really prefer a heavier throw so I go to the DM (incredible smoth, but you cannot go wrong whit any of these).