# Which Yoyo is better? **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [September 20, 2012, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-better/43025 "2012-09-20T18:48:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Shadow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5fc32e/32.png) [@Shadow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shadow)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-better/43025/1 "2012-09-20T18:48:36Z")
Hi, I wanna buy a yoyo and I dont know which one to choose: Counter Attack by Yoyo Factory or Dv888 also by Yoyo Factory. I saw the Dv888 costs more so i guess its better but i still want your opinions,thanks. (sorry if i have any errors in my english because im not so good). ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-better/43025/2 "2012-09-20T18:50:05Z")
we need to know what you are looking for in a yoyo. we actually need a lot more information in order to advise what yoyo you should get. (in before da move) ---
**Author:** ![Shadowz143](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shadowz143/32/952_2.png) [@Shadowz143](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shadowz143)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-better/43025/3 "2012-09-20T18:52:51Z")
I like your name. ;D I’ve never tried both. But, we want to hear your preferences in yoyos. Fast? Slow? Heavy? Light? V-shaped? H-shaped? Small-Midsized-Oversized? Metal or Plastic? Bi-Metal? What level yoyoer are you? Do you know how to bind? If not, I think the Dark Magic II will probably be an awesome choice for you. Please respond. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Shadow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5fc32e/32.png) [@Shadow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shadow)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-better/43025/4 "2012-09-20T19:02:54Z")
My preferences in yoyos are:fast yoyos,medium weight (not so heavy and not so light),midsized and metal. I guess im above average in yoyos and im pretty good (and yes of course i know the bind). ---
**Author:** ![Shadowz143](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shadowz143/32/952_2.png) [@Shadowz143](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shadowz143)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-better/43025/5 "2012-09-20T19:08:50Z")
Okay, so, The Dv88 is nothing amazing. (Nothing against YYF, I love them) I’ve never tried the Counter Attack. But it’s plastic, and you said you wanted a metal. Have you ever looked in to Shinwoo yoyos? People say their fantastic. Oh, and your English is not that bad! ---
**Author:** ![Shadow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5fc32e/32.png) [@Shadow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shadow)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-better/43025/6 "2012-09-20T19:13:50Z")
I never looked into Shinwoo yoyos.Did you tried it once? ---
**Author:** ![yoyoer8](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoer8/32/963_2.png) [@yoyoer8](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoer8)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-better/43025/7 "2012-09-20T19:13:58Z")
Di base. Somebody had to say it. LoL ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-better/43025/8 "2012-09-20T19:58:14Z")
> [@Shadow](#): > > Hi, > I wanna buy a yoyo and I dont know which one to choose: > Counter Attack by Yoyo Factory or Dv888 also by Yoyo Factory. > > I saw the Dv888 costs more so i guess its better but i still want your opinions,thanks. > > (sorry if i have any errors in my english because im not so good). There’s a lot of misconceptions that “higher price” means “higher quality” or “better performance”. With yoyo, preferences play a major factor that sometimes price becomes a secondary factor. There are amazing yoyos that sell for very little that perform very, very good, even up there with yoyos costing $70 or more. At the same time, there are metal yoyos in more of a budget price range that are for whatever reason, they are selling for very affordable rates. A few examples are the RecRev Facade and the C3YoYoDesign DiBase, which are under $60 and play really great. Wait, I think the Facade sells for just over $70, but either way it’s amazing. Now, let’s look at your two choices. You’re comparing the full sized plastic $30 Counter Attack against the undersized metal $45 dv888. Right there, we are comparing metal vs. plastic and “small vs. large”, along wiht different shapes. Other than the same brand, these share little in common, so it’s not really fair to compare them, at least not from a “which one is better”. Now, my opinion on the Counter Attack is non-existant. I don’t have one and I’m not interested in getting one. At the same time, I have nothing to say negative against it. It sells good and may people like it, so it can’t be bad. However, for $5 more, you have your choice of the Protostar and/or Northstar. These two yoyos share the same shape but different weights, which alter playing performance. The Notherstar tends to be slower through the air and the Protostar is faster. Both regular compete against $100+ metal yoyos in competition. So, not to rule out the Counter Attack, but if you’re considering spending dv888 money, the Protostar and/or Northstar should be heavily considered. The dv888 to me is a good quality yoyo. I won’t directly bash it. It’s decent, and it feels like a solid, dense $45 yoyo. In my opinion, and I’m not alone, it’s kind of boring. It’s good, it gets the job done. It is stable, smooth and comfortable. However, due to the shape and design, it can go off axis easily. It will force you to play cleaner and improve your technique. I like my dv888, but it isn’t something I readily reach for. Other people absolutely love the dv888. As you can see, preferences are very critical. It’s a lot to think about. Money isn’t a true determining factor of “better”. It’s all about preferences. In yoyo, you’ll find that “better” is a subjective thing. What may be better or best for me might not be an better or best for you. ---
**Author:** ![Shadow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5fc32e/32.png) [@Shadow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shadow)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-better/43025/9 "2012-09-20T20:14:57Z")
> [@Studio42](#): > > > [@Shadow](#): > > > > Hi, > > I wanna buy a yoyo and I dont know which one to choose: > > Counter Attack by Yoyo Factory or Dv888 also by Yoyo Factory. > > > > I saw the Dv888 costs more so i guess its better but i still want your opinions,thanks. > > > > (sorry if i have any errors in my english because im not so good). > > There’s a lot of misconceptions that “higher price” means “higher quality” or “better performance”. With yoyo, preferences play a major factor that sometimes price becomes a secondary factor. There are amazing yoyos that sell for very little that perform very, very good, even up there with yoyos costing $70 or more. At the same time, there are metal yoyos in more of a budget price range that are for whatever reason, they are selling for very affordable rates. A few examples are the RecRev Facade and the C3YoYoDesign DiBase, which are under $60 and play really great. Wait, I think the Facade sells for just over $70, but either way it’s amazing. > > Now, let’s look at your two choices. > > You’re comparing the full sized plastic $30 Counter Attack against the undersized metal $45 dv888. Right there, we are comparing metal vs. plastic and “small vs. large”, along wiht different shapes. Other than the same brand, these share little in common, so it’s not really fair to compare them, at least not from a “which one is better”. > > Now, my opinion on the Counter Attack is non-existant. I don’t have one and I’m not interested in getting one. At the same time, I have nothing to say negative against it. It sells good and may people like it, so it can’t be bad. However, for $5 more, you have your choice of the Protostar and/or Northstar. These two yoyos share the same shape but different weights, which alter playing performance. The Notherstar tends to be slower through the air and the Protostar is faster. Both regular compete against $100+ metal yoyos in competition. So, not to rule out the Counter Attack, but if you’re considering spending dv888 money, the Protostar and/or Northstar should be heavily considered. > > The dv888 to me is a good quality yoyo. I won’t directly bash it. It’s decent, and it feels like a solid, dense $45 yoyo. In my opinion, and I’m not alone, it’s kind of boring. It’s good, it gets the job done. It is stable, smooth and comfortable. However, due to the shape and design, it can go off axis easily. It will force you to play cleaner and improve your technique. > > I like my dv888, but it isn’t something I readily reach for. Other people absolutely love the dv888. As you can see, preferences are very critical. > > It’s a lot to think about. Money isn’t a true determining factor of “better”. It’s all about preferences. In yoyo, you’ll find that “better” is a subjective thing. What may be better or best for me might not be an better or best for you. . Thanks for your help,I think I’ll buy the Prototype thank you very much. ---
**Author:** ![augmentedloyalty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/augmentedloyalty/32/1218_2.png) [@augmentedloyalty](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/augmentedloyalty)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2012, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-better/43025/10 "2012-09-22T13:41:51Z")
how about the c3 dibase ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 12:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-better/43025/11 "2012-09-24T00:41:07Z")
Maybe you should get a protostar or a northstar, those are good shapes and not too heavy and not too light. ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 12:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-better/43025/12 "2012-09-24T00:44:24Z")
Oh,…….…I didn’t see that you wanted a metal, in that case get a DV888 ---
**Author:** ![DrAwesome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/drawesome/32/1139_2.png) [@DrAwesome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DrAwesome)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 1:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-better/43025/13 "2012-09-24T01:27:17Z")
> [@gentrysteinrocks](#): > > Oh,…….…I didn’t see that you wanted a metal, in that case get a Di Base/Echo fixed ---
**Author:** ![augmentedloyalty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/augmentedloyalty/32/1218_2.png) [@augmentedloyalty](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/augmentedloyalty)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-better/43025/14 "2012-10-01T17:18:21Z")
look at c3 yoyo design sicne most of they metal yoyo throw like hundred dollar throws heres a link: [http://www.c3yoyodesign.com/en/index.html](http://www.c3yoyodesign.com/en/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Lexos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/lexos/32/1229_2.png) [@Lexos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lexos)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2012, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-better/43025/15 "2012-10-07T15:59:06Z")
Dark Magic 2. If your are gonna spend the 45 USD on the DV888, and if you are comparing two yoyos, one plastic and one metal, that the dark magic is for you. ---
**Author:** ![DrAwesome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/drawesome/32/1139_2.png) [@DrAwesome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DrAwesome)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 12:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-better/43025/16 "2012-10-08T00:00:54Z")
Just get a di base and call it a day ---
**Author:** ![SR1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sr1/32/104603_2.png) [@SR1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SR1)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 12:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-better/43025/17 "2012-10-08T00:08:54Z")
In my opinion, the Counter Attack is absolutely awful (had some friends own some, they all broke, all 3 of them) and the dv888 is too small for my preferences. I would either get a c3 dibase or capless, or a protostar. ---
**Author:** ![holland](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/holland/32/853_2.png) [@holland](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/holland)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-better/43025/18 "2012-10-08T20:46:46Z")
Dv888 is AMAZING. It’s dead smooth, feels great, and spins for days.