# which is better? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [April 7, 2009, 11:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-is-better/1448 "2009-04-07T23:52:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![LEGACY1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@LEGACY1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LEGACY1)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2009, 11:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-is-better/1448/1 "2009-04-07T23:52:45Z")
OK, which yoyo do you guys think is better? the Legacy, hitman (hybrid), xconVict, or dark magic? I have heard a lot of things, but i want to know which one to get next! So, just post your opinion! ;D ---
**Author:** ![yoyo13](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyo13/32/69_2.png) [@yoyo13](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyo13)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 12:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-is-better/1448/2 "2009-04-08T00:02:35Z")
it depends on what you like… ---
**Author:** ![DYonch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bc79bd/32.png) [@DYonch](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DYonch)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 12:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-is-better/1448/3 "2009-04-08T00:14:31Z")
It depends… try being more specific: Which is better for 1A (or 2a, 3a, 4a, or 5a)? Which is better for speed players? Which will i like if i already have the legacy? Which is the best value? ---
**Author:** ![Samad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/samad/32/19_2.png) [@Samad](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Samad)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 12:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-is-better/1448/4 "2009-04-08T00:16:34Z")
[http://yoyoexpert.com/forums/index.php/topic,653.0.html](http://yoyoexpert.com/forums/index.php/topic,653.0.html) Answer those questions for us to decide. ---
**Author:** ![LEGACY1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@LEGACY1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LEGACY1)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-is-better/1448/5 "2009-04-08T00:34:54Z")
sorry for being less specific :wink: I do already have a legacy, and i dont really want it for speed tricks. and definately for 1a! I am just concerned about the responce. is dual o ring too responsive in the hitman or xconvict? (I have a speeder and legacy, which are hybrid and silicon! ---
**Author:** ![Paolo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Paolo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Paolo)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 12:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-is-better/1448/6 "2009-04-08T00:35:27Z")
> [@Samad](#): > > [http://yoyoexpert.com/forums/index.php/topic,653.0.html](http://yoyoexpert.com/forums/index.php/topic,653.0.html) > > Answer those questions for us to decide. I agree,answer the questions,but I prefer a dark magic. ---
**Author:** ![JeiCheetah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jeicheetah/32/612192_2.png) [@JeiCheetah](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JeiCheetah)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 12:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-is-better/1448/7 "2009-04-08T00:39:52Z")
Well it depends. Each one plays a bit differently. Legacy: Smooth yoyo, plastic but has a nice grinding surface, silicone so it has a very smooth but tight bind, a bit on the heavy side, Oversized, durable. Probably not the best if you like doing fast tricks. Perfect for smooth combos! Hybrid Hitman: Also a nice yoyo,plastic with metal rims so grinding is nice, one side starburst one side oring so can be quite grippy at times, average weight,Average size, maybe a tad small, durable but rims can get dinged. Good for fast tricks! Xconvict: Very smooth yoyo, Plastic with oversized metal rims, large metal rims allow very nice grinds, Double oring so you get smooth binds, average weight, undersized a bit, Durable but rims can get dinged, Good for smooth tricks, handles the string very well Dark Magic: Plastic with metal rims, Hybrid response so can be a bit grippy at times, a bit on the heavy side, has thumb grind rings, metal rings allow some nice grinds, a bit on the heavy side, oversized, metal rims can get dinged but the yoyo is durable. Not good for faster tricks due to its heaviness. But a nice yoyo for long technical combos and grinds! So it depends, what do you like? If you like: A normal sized yoyo that has nice smooth returns amd you want good grinding? dont like heavy yoyos? The vict would be a good choice. If you like: A yoyo that is normal sized and normal weight, grinds, can come up well maybe even with a tug, dont really do thumb grinds, the Hybrid Hitman would be good. If you like: A larger yoyo that plays really smooth, can grind, binds very smooth, and are on a budget the Legacy is a good option (plus it looks amazing!) If you like: Larger yoyos that come back nice and quick on a bind, heavier side, can grind well and thumb grind. Thats a dark magic. Out of all those yoyos, my fave is the Xconvict. Its a very smooth yoyo, and fits my style well. I set mine up with a cleaned bearing and a thin shim on each side. Hopefully I helped with what you might want to get. Whatever yoyo you get, have fun with it! You will enjoy em! Good luck! J. ---
**Author:** ![LEGACY1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@LEGACY1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LEGACY1)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 12:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-is-better/1448/8 "2009-04-08T00:46:38Z")
OH sorry! i didnt see the link! I like a bigger size, I like rounded butterfly, I like the hybrid and silicon (havent tried o ring). If modding/maintain means add shims, then yeah. Color doesnt matter too much unless its yellow or pink! I like whips and tricks like skin the gerbil. my price range is 50$ and under. my skill level is advanced to expert (learning master). ---
**Author:** ![Samad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/samad/32/19_2.png) [@Samad](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Samad)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 12:50am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-is-better/1448/9 "2009-04-08T00:50:16Z")
It seems to me that the Hybrid Hitman would be good for you. However, look at Josh’s lengthy post and try to decide again. :wink: ---
**Author:** ![LEGACY1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@LEGACY1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LEGACY1)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-is-better/1448/10 "2009-04-08T01:00:59Z")
that “lengthy post” (lol) helped! I think I will stick to the dual o ring like the hitman, but go with the X conVIct! I was thinking about doing that, i just wanted to get some input! but you guys definately helped!..so, which is better, yyf, or yyj?..oh! suprised you with that question didnt I? …lol ---
**Author:** ![LEGACY1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@LEGACY1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LEGACY1)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-is-better/1448/11 "2009-04-08T10:54:54Z")
um…I was thinking of the original hitman not the hybrid. I guess my mind was set on the o rings! And I have heard that the hitman can be too responsive!