# which is better: the phenomizm or the speeder 2?

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**Created:** [June 28, 2011, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-is-better-the-phenomizm-or-the-speeder-2/27684 "2011-06-28T14:52:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![bluepower9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@bluepower9](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bluepower9)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-is-better-the-phenomizm-or-the-speeder-2/27684/1 "2011-06-28T14:52:32Z")

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which yoyo is better: the phenomizm or the speeder 2?

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**Author:** ![patrickcondon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/patrickcondon/32/619950_2.png) [@patrickcondon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/patrickcondon)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-is-better-the-phenomizm-or-the-speeder-2/27684/2 "2011-06-28T15:45:28Z")

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Neither is better. I can say, though, that since the Speeder and Phenomizm are both signature yoyos for Hiroyuki Suzuki, that they should play with a similar feel and style. The style being very, very fast and very, very light.

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**Author:** ![FiveIronBrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fiveironbrian/32/451_2.png) [@FiveIronBrian](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/FiveIronBrian)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-is-better-the-phenomizm-or-the-speeder-2/27684/3 "2011-06-28T16:58:34Z")

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> [@patrickcondon](#):
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> Neither is better. I can say, though, that since the Speeder and Phenomizm are both signature yoyos for Hiroyuki Suzuki, that they should play with a similar feel and style. The style being very, very fast and very, very light.

The Phenomizm surprised me. I found it heavier and more solid than I expected, at least compared to the original speeder. I guess styles can evolve a little.

Neither is better.

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**Author:** ![YOYOJAMizm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyojamizm/32/774_2.png) [@YOYOJAMizm](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YOYOJAMizm)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-is-better-the-phenomizm-or-the-speeder-2/27684/4 "2011-06-28T22:07:10Z")

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really choose based on what looks better to you.  
do you like metal rims?  
or metal rings in the center like the phenomizm?

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**Author:** ![bunsoy1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@bunsoy1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bunsoy1)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-is-better-the-phenomizm-or-the-speeder-2/27684/5 "2011-06-28T22:38:04Z")

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It’s preference I guess…

Speeder= Magical floaty being  
Phenomizm= Solid Beast  
Both= Fast+Bad AZZ

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**Author:** ![swagyoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@swagyoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/swagyoyo)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 2:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-is-better-the-phenomizm-or-the-speeder-2/27684/6 "2011-07-01T02:46:23Z")

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Phenomizm only cuz i have one 🙂
