# which is better a DM or a proto star? **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [February 21, 2010, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-is-better-a-dm-or-a-proto-star/11582 "2010-02-21T19:01:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![7ShadesOfGrey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/7/b5a626/32.png) [@7ShadesOfGrey](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/7ShadesOfGrey)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2010, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-is-better-a-dm-or-a-proto-star/11582/1 "2010-02-21T19:01:51Z")
hi guys! w/c yoyo do you think is better, and long spin time? 🙂 a DM or a Proto Star? ---
**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2010, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-is-better-a-dm-or-a-proto-star/11582/2 "2010-02-21T19:21:49Z")
Neither is better or will spin longer with a good throw. ---
**Author:** ![Batryn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/batryn/32/78_2.png) [@Batryn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Batryn)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2010, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-is-better-a-dm-or-a-proto-star/11582/3 "2010-02-21T19:37:23Z")
Which is better, a orange or an apple? Ask that question and the answers will be based on preferance. I suggest you just look at the shape and sizes, and figure out which one you want to hold. If you like grinding, I suspect a DM will grind better, but I’ve not tried the protostar, so it’s just speculation. Just see which one looks better to you. ---
**Author:** ![BrickM3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f17d59/32.png) [@BrickM3](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/BrickM3)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2010, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-is-better-a-dm-or-a-proto-star/11582/4 "2010-02-21T19:51:20Z")
Personally, I do not like YoYoFactory, so naturally I would say DM. The protostars come unresponsive out of the box, whereas the DM can be responsive, or unresponsive. Definitely think the DM is more well rounded for beginners and advanced players alike. Hope that helped! ---
**Author:** ![Batryn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/batryn/32/78_2.png) [@Batryn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Batryn)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2010, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-is-better-a-dm-or-a-proto-star/11582/5 "2010-02-21T23:04:42Z")
Nah, DM is unresponsive too. At least mine was. Why don’t you like YYF??? They’re not bad, well, then again, I only bought a genesis. ---
**Author:** ![BrickM3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f17d59/32.png) [@BrickM3](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/BrickM3)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 12:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-is-better-a-dm-or-a-proto-star/11582/6 "2010-02-23T00:53:04Z")
Something about them I just don’t like. I don’t really think I can put my finger on it… but there’s something. My DM was definitely responsive out of the box. A bearing change and shims made it dead unresponsive. ---
**Author:** ![Nmaster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nmaster/32/345_2.png) [@Nmaster](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nmaster)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 1:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-is-better-a-dm-or-a-proto-star/11582/7 "2010-02-23T01:39:33Z")
They are both great yoyos, if you like grinding I suggest you the DM, If you like 5a, I suggest you the protostar, because protostar is a great player in both of them. Spin time? The spin time depends on you. It just depends how hard you throw it. Have fun practicing ;D ---
**Author:** ![yoyofan11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyofan11/32/426_2.png) [@yoyofan11](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyofan11)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2010, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-is-better-a-dm-or-a-proto-star/11582/8 "2010-02-25T20:16:18Z")
> [@BrickM3](#): > > Personally, I do not like YoYoFactory. I’m not very fond of YYJ because it seems alot of their yoyos are the same. Plastic center, metal rims, just slight variations in shape. ---
**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2010, 11:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-is-better-a-dm-or-a-proto-star/11582/9 "2010-02-25T23:28:46Z")
> [@BrickM3](#): > > My DM was definitely responsive out of the box. A bearing change and shims made it dead unresponsive. This isn’t even needed. > [@yoyofan11](#): > > > [@BrickM3](#): > > > > Personally, I do not like YoYoFactory. > > I’m not very fond of YYJ because it seems alot of their yoyos are the same. Plastic center, metal rims, just slight variations in shape. And YYF isn’t? ---
**Author:** ![Batryn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/batryn/32/78_2.png) [@Batryn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Batryn)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2010, 12:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-is-better-a-dm-or-a-proto-star/11582/10 "2010-02-27T00:04:57Z")
Hmmm… YYF. Cheap metals with different shapes. OF COURSE!!! There’s only like 5 variations of materials, so it must be different shapes. Anyways, do you think a C13 is the same as a Genesis? They’re both made of metal… ---
**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2010, 1:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-is-better-a-dm-or-a-proto-star/11582/11 "2010-02-27T01:10:56Z")
I guess I should have specified that I meant YYF has just as wide of variation in shape as YYJ.