# Which CLYW to get?(not old thread) **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [February 15, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-clyw-to-get-not-old-thread/49505 "2013-02-15T03:08:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![CLYWPenguin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/clywpenguin/32/1283_2.png) [@CLYWPenguin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/CLYWPenguin)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-clyw-to-get-not-old-thread/49505/1 "2013-02-15T03:08:02Z")
Which one? I am advanced-expert. I like organic-ish sized yoyos/really floaty. I like yoyos that are smaller than the chief. ;D and LONG SPINNING throws \<3 ---
**Author:** ![znin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/znin/32/1279_2.png) [@znin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/znin)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 3:32am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-clyw-to-get-not-old-thread/49505/2 "2013-02-15T03:32:49Z")
If you want smaller than then the chief, then the Cliff isn’t an option. (The Chief can fit INSIDE of the Cliff) The Glacier Express is the complete opposite of a organic throw. It’s an extreme H shape. The Puffin is your best choice. Smaller, Freakingly fun, floaty, and Organic. Thats your best choice for your preferences. Con: Little lacking on spin time, but can be easily fixed. ---
**Author:** ![CLYWPenguin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/clywpenguin/32/1283_2.png) [@CLYWPenguin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/CLYWPenguin)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 3:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-clyw-to-get-not-old-thread/49505/3 "2013-02-15T03:51:54Z")
Thank you . But if I took out organic which would you pick puffin or glacier express? Do you know the Puffins spin time? ---
**Author:** ![znin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/znin/32/1279_2.png) [@znin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/znin)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 5:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-clyw-to-get-not-old-thread/49505/4 "2013-02-15T05:47:29Z")
2-3 min tops. I would get the Puffin I don’t really like the Glacier. It just seems too slow. ---
**Author:** ![LinksLegionaire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/linkslegionaire/32/886_2.png) [@LinksLegionaire](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LinksLegionaire)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 6:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-clyw-to-get-not-old-thread/49505/5 "2013-02-15T06:34:28Z")
> [@CLYWPenguin](#): > > Thank you . But if I took out organic which would you pick puffin or glacier express? Do you know the Puffins spin time? > [@znin](#): > > 2-3 min tops. Please don’t say things like this, it just adds confusion. Spin times vary greatly between different players due to skill level, throwing power, and what bearing was used. My favorite is the Puffin. I thought the GE to be too small for its shape and the Cliff felt ‘lifeless’. ---
**Author:** ![znin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/znin/32/1279_2.png) [@znin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/znin)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-clyw-to-get-not-old-thread/49505/6 "2013-02-15T14:58:55Z")
> [@LinksLegionaire](#): > > > [@CLYWPenguin](#): > > > > Thank you . But if I took out organic which would you pick puffin or glacier express? Do you know the Puffins spin time? > > > [@znin](#): > > > > 2-3 min tops. > > Please don’t say things like this, it just adds confusion. Spin times vary greatly between different players due to skill level, throwing power, and what bearing was used. > > My favorite is the Puffin. I thought the GE to be too small for its shape and the Cliff felt ‘lifeless’. Yeah, sorry I didn’t think about that, I guess I should of said 2-3 minutes for ME. ---
**Author:** ![CLYWPenguin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/clywpenguin/32/1283_2.png) [@CLYWPenguin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/CLYWPenguin)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-clyw-to-get-not-old-thread/49505/7 "2013-02-15T15:51:31Z")
If the size of the throw and shape didnt matter which one would you guys pick? ??? ---
**Author:** ![aznnboyaZ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aznnboyaz/32/651830_2.png) [@aznnboyaZ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/aznnboyaZ)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-clyw-to-get-not-old-thread/49505/8 "2013-02-15T16:08:51Z")
> [@LinksLegionaire](#): > > > [@CLYWPenguin](#): > > > > Thank you . But if I took out organic which would you pick puffin or glacier express? Do you know the Puffins spin time? > > > [@znin](#): > > > > 2-3 min tops. > > Please don’t say things like this, it just adds confusion. Spin times vary greatly between different players due to skill level, throwing power, and what bearing was used. > > My favorite is the Puffin. I thought the GE to be too small for its shape and the Cliff felt ‘lifeless’. Using variant bearings and string Have a huge effect on the play of the cliff! ---
**Author:** ![Coffelt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/coffelt/32/1085_2.png) [@Coffelt](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Coffelt)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-clyw-to-get-not-old-thread/49505/9 "2013-02-15T16:12:04Z")
My suggestion as you don’t have a finite set of dimension, would be the BVM2. If you are not in love with it and took good care of it turning into something else would not be much of a problem. ---
**Author:** ![CLYWPenguin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/clywpenguin/32/1283_2.png) [@CLYWPenguin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/CLYWPenguin)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-clyw-to-get-not-old-thread/49505/10 "2013-02-15T16:25:45Z")
Okay, so since the last didnt work out… If size/h-shape didnt matter which would you pick? ---
**Author:** ![znin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/znin/32/1279_2.png) [@znin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/znin)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-clyw-to-get-not-old-thread/49505/11 "2013-02-15T16:42:07Z")
I have not tried the Cliff so I’m not that great of a person to ask. But between the GE and the Puffin, definitely the Puffin for me. I like the look and feel of it better than the GE. It really doesn’t matter which one you get, none of them will disappoint. ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-clyw-to-get-not-old-thread/49505/12 "2013-02-15T16:44:27Z")
The question doesn’t work on most levels. It’s like asking, “If it weren’t for preferences, what’s your preference?” If you’re throwing out the original preferences of size and shape, what are we left with? Spin time, speed, and stability I guess? Which of these is most important (there are ALWAYS going to be trade-offs due to physics, which is why there’s no such thing as the perfect yoyo!). All things being equal, I would get the Puffin. For things not on your list, I’d probably wait for the BvM2. Or see if there are any FG Avalanches left. But just to reiterate… without isolating what you’re looking for in a throw, all you’re really asking is, “Which of these do you guys like?” which isn’t a helpful metric for making a decision. ---
**Author:** ![CLYWPenguin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/clywpenguin/32/1283_2.png) [@CLYWPenguin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/CLYWPenguin)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-clyw-to-get-not-old-thread/49505/13 "2013-02-15T17:32:16Z")
There is one thing I don’t like about the Puffin though… short spin times… Now it is Glacier Express or Puffin(got a glacier express deal’yogi ed’ for $150 and a clare view puffin for $135) \<3 I wonder who keeps on voting for cliff when I said smaller than the chief ^^. ---
**Author:** ![CLYWPenguin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/clywpenguin/32/1283_2.png) [@CLYWPenguin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/CLYWPenguin)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-clyw-to-get-not-old-thread/49505/14 "2013-02-15T17:33:37Z")
Poll is reset! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-clyw-to-get-not-old-thread/49505/15 "2013-02-15T17:47:25Z")
> [@CLYWPenguin](#): > > There is one thing I don’t like about the Puffin though… short spin times… > > Now it is Glacier Express or Puffin(got a glacier express deal’yogi ed’ for $150 and a clare view puffin for $135) \<3 > > I wonder who keeps on voting for cliff when I said smaller than the chief ^^. You’re adding to the confusion and you’re probably not going to get any sort of useful results anymore. :wink: If you don’t like the Puffin’s shorter spin times, you’re only left with the GE. And if you didn’t want someone to vote on the Cliff, why was it in the poll? Right from the very first post in this thread, you said you wanted smaller than the Chief… I say give up on the poll… continue your research another way… and get the one you feel like you want the most. It’s easy! ---
**Author:** ![CLYWPenguin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/clywpenguin/32/1283_2.png) [@CLYWPenguin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/CLYWPenguin)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-clyw-to-get-not-old-thread/49505/16 "2013-02-15T17:57:22Z")
Well the puffin’s spin times is okay to me. The Cliff was there because I wasn’t sure which one to get and clearly posted smaller than the chief. I say do not give up on the poll and continue my research this way. ---
**Author:** ![aznnboyaZ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aznnboyaz/32/651830_2.png) [@aznnboyaZ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/aznnboyaZ)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-clyw-to-get-not-old-thread/49505/17 "2013-02-15T20:15:11Z")
Well Glacier Express is quite a great yoyo! Puffin is too. For what you want. I’d say go for the GE Unless you really want Organic Then I’d say puffin/ canvas(even if it isn’t on your poll haha) ---
**Author:** ![TTTYo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tttyo/32/1280_2.png) [@TTTYo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TTTYo)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-clyw-to-get-not-old-thread/49505/18 "2013-02-15T20:30:10Z")
My puffin gets just as good spin times as any other clyw of mine. Maybe because It really likes me??? I would say grab a fg avalanche. Amazing throw for an amazing price. If you are dead set on the clyw brand, I would say the puffin is a solid choice. I was not that fond of the GE, but hey that’s me. Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![CLYWPenguin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/clywpenguin/32/1283_2.png) [@CLYWPenguin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/CLYWPenguin)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 10:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-clyw-to-get-not-old-thread/49505/19 "2013-02-15T22:12:09Z")
That is funny XD! part of my siggy now \<3 ---
**Author:** ![TTTYo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tttyo/32/1280_2.png) [@TTTYo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TTTYo)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 12:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-clyw-to-get-not-old-thread/49505/20 "2013-02-16T00:30:47Z")
> [@CLYWPenguin](#): > > That is funny XD! part of my siggy now \<3 :wink: [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-clyw-to-get-not-old-thread/49505.md?page=2)