# Which all metal should I get? **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [July 2, 2014, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-all-metal-should-i-get/67475 "2014-07-02T17:25:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Insiiight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/insiiight/32/44522_2.png) [@Insiiight](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Insiiight)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-all-metal-should-i-get/67475/1 "2014-07-02T17:25:26Z")
Should I get the n12 magic or the c3 token? I know the c3 is undersized but does it perform at the same level as the sharks honor? ---
**Author:** ![sparhawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-all-metal-should-i-get/67475/2 "2014-07-02T17:42:10Z")
N12 all the way the yoyofficer kilter would be the other throw to consider ---
**Author:** ![Insiiight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/insiiight/32/44522_2.png) [@Insiiight](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Insiiight)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-all-metal-should-i-get/67475/3 "2014-07-02T18:03:31Z")
Yeah I was leaning more towards the n12 after some videos I saw of it’s play. I heard bad stuff about magic bearings and the bearing in my desperado isn’t great. Should I replace it with a center track? I’ll give it a view. Do you think it’s better than the n12? ---
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-all-metal-should-i-get/67475/4 "2014-07-02T19:05:43Z")
For that price, get the YYO Kilter ---
**Author:** ![GoCrazyForYoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gocrazyforyoyo/32/7941_2.png) [@GoCrazyForYoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GoCrazyForYoyo)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-all-metal-should-i-get/67475/5 "2014-07-02T19:09:07Z")
My N12’s bearing is the best I own. I have several CT’s, Whipples, CTX’s, Konkaves etc. The concave that came in my N12 beats then all. ---
**Author:** ![Luke\_Renner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/luke_renner/32/368_2.png) [@Luke\_Renner](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Luke_Renner)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-all-metal-should-i-get/67475/6 "2014-07-02T19:23:22Z")
I’ve been putting lots of hours in with the N12 and N8. The N12 is great for grinds and spins. I have a show tomorrow in Grants, New Mexico and plan to use the N12. ---
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-all-metal-should-i-get/67475/7 "2014-07-02T21:03:39Z")
> [@GoCrazyForYoyo](#): > > My N12’s bearing is the best I own. I have several CT’s, Whipples, CTX’s, Konkaves etc. The concave that came in my N12 beats then all. You got lucky then. MYYs bearings are very inconsistent ---
**Author:** ![GoCrazyForYoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gocrazyforyoyo/32/7941_2.png) [@GoCrazyForYoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GoCrazyForYoyo)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-all-metal-should-i-get/67475/8 "2014-07-02T21:23:40Z")
> [@andy569](#): > > You got lucky then. MYYs bearings are very inconsistent Maybe. The ones that you get off Amazon or from a Chinese retailer can be suspect. I won mine. The ones sold in the USA come with Buddha Dimples and those are on par with CTs. It depends on where you buy them. ---
**Author:** ![Insiiight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/insiiight/32/44522_2.png) [@Insiiight](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Insiiight)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-all-metal-should-i-get/67475/9 "2014-07-02T21:43:18Z")
This might have to come down to simply what I can afford. Both the kilter and n12 seem to be excellent choices. I wish I would have known about them before I bought my protostar ---
**Author:** ![sparhawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-all-metal-should-i-get/67475/10 "2014-07-02T21:49:08Z")
> [@Insiiight](#): > > This might have to come down to simply what I can afford. Both the kilter and n12 seem to be excellent choices. I wish I would have known about them before I bought my protostar The only other throw I’d consider would be the recrev neuae if you wanted something mroe undersized I’m not a fan of the token in terms of feel and the neuae still feels like a rock on the string but it’s better in terms of play I think. Might want to consider the BST as well since you can get some heavily discounted throws from there