# Wherein I declare war on the DV888 **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [November 22, 2018, 11:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wherein-i-declare-war-on-the-dv888/295473 "2018-11-22T23:58:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2018, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wherein-i-declare-war-on-the-dv888/295473/41 "2018-11-24T19:19:13Z")
The pizza analogy doesn’t seem quite right to me. I think it would be more like questioning the selling of new 1st generation iPods for $200 today. Would the iPod work as an audio player? Sure. But how many folks would feel it is worth $200 in today’s consumer electronics market? :thinking: ---
**Author:** ![smileypants707](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smileypants707/32/19045_2.png) [@smileypants707](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smileypants707)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2018, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wherein-i-declare-war-on-the-dv888/295473/42 "2018-11-24T19:22:24Z")
![ddf6463a6af0c67a10ab7b8ae8ae8b7ecaba7a141c4b3b2d4f4e3c8261075b8a](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/6/4/4/6445bce46c0a7623a0c9b0a17fda9bd72c924c73.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2018, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wherein-i-declare-war-on-the-dv888/295473/43 "2018-11-24T19:23:19Z")
Are we even yelling? I mean it seems like a reasonable discussion to me… ---
**Author:** ![smileypants707](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smileypants707/32/19045_2.png) [@smileypants707](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smileypants707)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2018, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wherein-i-declare-war-on-the-dv888/295473/44 "2018-11-24T19:29:58Z")
No, but it does seem like you’re all just speaking into echo chambers. ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2018, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wherein-i-declare-war-on-the-dv888/295473/45 "2018-11-24T19:43:46Z")
Really? I posted actual pics of the gap issue with the DV888 which makes it problematic as a responsive. And others have contibuted some interesting and informative posts, look at @Yoyosampler a few posts up for just one example. 🤷‍♂️ seems fine to me! What especially chaps my … organic yo-yo curve… is that if YYF had continued to make and sell the 888 as its beginners yo-yo, which is a _real_ classic in everyone’s book, none of this heartburn would be necessary! ---
**Author:** ![smileypants707](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smileypants707/32/19045_2.png) [@smileypants707](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smileypants707)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2018, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wherein-i-declare-war-on-the-dv888/295473/46 "2018-11-24T19:53:19Z")
> [@codinghorror](#): > > What especially chaps my … organic yo-yo curve… is that if YYF had continued to make and sell the 888 as its beginners yo-yo, which is a _real_ classic in everyone’s book, none of this heartburn would be necessary! Completely agree. > [@codinghorror](#): > > I posted actual pics of the gap issue with the DV888 which makes it problematic as a responsive Might as well throw the replay under the bus too. The one I bought came with pads exactly like that, and it really was the worst ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2018, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wherein-i-declare-war-on-the-dv888/295473/47 "2018-11-24T20:06:08Z")
> [@skitrz](#): > > This thread makes me want a DV888! 😄 Oddly enough… Me too!🤣 ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2018, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wherein-i-declare-war-on-the-dv888/295473/48 "2018-11-24T20:08:19Z")
Would you send your DV888 to me, Jeff? 😆 ---
**Author:** ![Yoyosampler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyosampler/32/50693_2.png) [@Yoyosampler](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyosampler)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2018, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wherein-i-declare-war-on-the-dv888/295473/49 "2018-11-24T20:11:45Z")
I was even thinking about the possibility that modernizing the DV888 or maybe even making the DV888 look just like a miniature 888 would be a great way to improve the DV888. I have never tried the 888, but I always thought it odd that two yoyos with such similar names and coming from apparently a similar line would be so different. The thing is, both yoyos were well loved by this community. Now, something else that we might need to consider: low cost metals are more widespread than they were when the DV888 first emerged, but full sized metals can be found all over the place now. I wonder, if things played out the other way around, so that the 888 was kept and the DV888 was discontinued, would it be possible to keep the 888 relevant to today’s yoyo community or would it get lost in the crowd? I don’t know for sure, but I wonder if the DV888 has not disappeared from the market simply because because there is still a niche in the yoyo community that it can fill: that of an undersized all metal mainstream budget throw. ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2018, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wherein-i-declare-war-on-the-dv888/295473/50 "2018-11-24T20:13:58Z")
It has my avatar laser etched on it plus it was a gift from a famous person who I admire, so I… can’t. While I am here I should point out that I bought old stock of a yoyojam Eneme which has a similar shape and size, though it was shipped unresponsive and a bit more tolerable. Still not great. But the operative words here are OLD STOCK 🙂 That Eneme I could send you. ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2018, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wherein-i-declare-war-on-the-dv888/295473/51 "2018-11-24T20:20:53Z")
Sure! I’ll give it a shot! Looks very much like a DV888. ---
**Author:** ![anon19434144](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@anon19434144](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon19434144)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2018, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wherein-i-declare-war-on-the-dv888/295473/52 "2018-11-24T20:37:31Z")
Replay responsive plays great with thin pads! ---
**Author:** ![Rosenberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rosenberg/32/20465_2.png) [@Rosenberg](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Rosenberg)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2018, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wherein-i-declare-war-on-the-dv888/295473/53 "2018-11-24T20:42:54Z")
To be fair, the DV888 was _far_ from the only yo-yo from that era that felt chunky on the end of the string. ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2018, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wherein-i-declare-war-on-the-dv888/295473/54 "2018-11-24T21:54:05Z")
Out of curiosity, how many of them (the “chunky on the end of the string” throws from that era) are still being made and sold today? ---
**Author:** ![Rosenberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rosenberg/32/20465_2.png) [@Rosenberg](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Rosenberg)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2018, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wherein-i-declare-war-on-the-dv888/295473/55 "2018-11-24T21:59:39Z")
Probably not very many, but I know what you’re getting at. This situation is one of two scenarios- 1) it’s a legacy product that YYF wants to keep making regardless of what the internet thinks or 2) it actually still sells. Couldn’t tell you which one is reality, but either way, it’s kind of a head scratcher for me that it gets bought up at all ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2018, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wherein-i-declare-war-on-the-dv888/295473/56 "2018-11-24T22:03:56Z")
> [@skitrz](#): > > This thread makes me want a DV888! 😄 Makes me want a medium, thin crust, pepperoni Pizza. ---
**Author:** ![skitrz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/skitrz/32/849_2.png) [@skitrz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skitrz)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2018, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wherein-i-declare-war-on-the-dv888/295473/57 "2018-11-24T22:05:42Z")
We should go get one before the dv888 hate ruins the appetite. Get the gang together!🍕🍕🍕🍕 ---
**Author:** ![smileypants707](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smileypants707/32/19045_2.png) [@smileypants707](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smileypants707)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2018, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wherein-i-declare-war-on-the-dv888/295473/58 "2018-11-24T22:07:37Z")
Ooh! I’m in! ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2018, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wherein-i-declare-war-on-the-dv888/295473/59 "2018-11-24T22:09:35Z")
Only if the pizza has pineapple on it, the BEST and ULTIMATE pizza topping! ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2018, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wherein-i-declare-war-on-the-dv888/295473/60 "2018-11-24T22:09:47Z")
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