# What's wrong with light fixed axle yoyos?
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-wrong-with-light-fixed-axle-yoyos/331469
**Category:** General Yo-Yo
**Created:** [December 22, 2020, 1:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-wrong-with-light-fixed-axle-yoyos/331469 "2020-12-22T01:06:00Z")
**Posts on this page:** 14
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### Author:  [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2020, 1:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-wrong-with-light-fixed-axle-yoyos/331469/1 "2020-12-22T01:06:00Z")
Why do many turn their nose up at fixed axle yoyos that are sub 50g?
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### Author:  [@vegabomb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/vegabomb)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2020, 1:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-wrong-with-light-fixed-axle-yoyos/331469/2 "2020-12-22T01:24:31Z")
I don’t know that I turn my nose up to them but I like the option of doing STM with a fixie, my skill set doesn’t let me do it with a lighter yoyo. 🤷♂️
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### Author:  [@edhaponik](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/edhaponik)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2020, 1:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-wrong-with-light-fixed-axle-yoyos/331469/3 "2020-12-22T01:26:50Z")
I think it’s just the fear of the unknown and some arbitrary “too light” cutoff.
The truth is the way most people are playing modern fixed axles, sub-50 is not problematic. They stall easy, regen easy, rotate readily on flip tricks. And I don’t notice a major drop in spin between a 45g yo-yo and a 55g at all. (And I’d MUCH rather play ~42g than ~62g lately.) I DO think there’s a drop off in control somewhere in that zone, although I find I can (mostly) compensate.
But I also get that for well over a decade almost no one was throwing that low weight (and a lot of players went as high as 70+) so they might imagine an issue where there isn’t one. If it’s well made, a fixie can go really light and still play super well.
The yo-yo I’ve been throwing almost exclusively since late summer has been 45g.
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### Author:  [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2020, 1:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-wrong-with-light-fixed-axle-yoyos/331469/4 "2020-12-22T01:27:05Z")
Interesting. I didn’t think that the weight would matter for that.
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### Author:  [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2020, 1:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-wrong-with-light-fixed-axle-yoyos/331469/5 "2020-12-22T01:28:26Z")
> [@edhaponik](#):
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> The truth is the way most people are playing modern fixed axles, sub-50 is not problematic. They stall easy, regen easy, rotate readily on flip tricks. And I don’t notice a major drop in spin between a 45g yo-yo and a 55g at all. (And I’d MUCH rather play ~42g than ~62g lately.)
This is exactly what I think too.
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### Author:  [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2020, 1:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-wrong-with-light-fixed-axle-yoyos/331469/6 "2020-12-22T01:38:42Z")
I’ve been saying lately that 45g is the new 50g.
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### Author:  [@EOS44](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/EOS44)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2020, 1:56am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-wrong-with-light-fixed-axle-yoyos/331469/7 "2020-12-22T01:56:42Z")
Nothing wrong with them. Stall / flips are nice on lighter yoyos.
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### Author:  [@fount](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/fount)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2020, 2:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-wrong-with-light-fixed-axle-yoyos/331469/8 "2020-12-22T02:00:53Z")
> [@edhaponik](#):
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> And I don’t notice a major drop in spin between a 45g yo-yo and a 55g at all. (And I’d MUCH rather play ~42g than ~62g lately.) I DO think there’s a drop off in control somewhere in that zone, although I find I can (mostly) compensate.
@edhaponik Can you explain what you mean by a drop in control along the weight range?
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### Author:  [@fount](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/fount)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2020, 2:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-wrong-with-light-fixed-axle-yoyos/331469/9 "2020-12-22T02:02:23Z")
I just started fixie playing with a Butterfly that’s around 45g. I’m really liking that, but my sample size of fixed axle weight ranges is at 1 right now. I’m interested what I’d think about a 55g or so yoyo…
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### Author:  [@edhaponik](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/edhaponik)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2020, 2:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-wrong-with-light-fixed-axle-yoyos/331469/10 "2020-12-22T02:27:56Z")
At a certain point (especially in a stall) a really light yoyo will move with very little prompting. So a very light motion will cause a faster flip or turn than intended. But as I said it’s something you can adjust to. I used to throw mainly 57-62 range and now I throw more 45-52.
And everybody has their own taste like Vega mentioned. For some 50 feels too light. But I agree it’s not a line in the sand in terms of function.
This most recent vid is all w 45g.
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8gTr8Wql70)
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### Author:  [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2020, 3:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-wrong-with-light-fixed-axle-yoyos/331469/11 "2020-12-22T03:35:03Z")
> [@anon5341354](#):
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> Why do many turn their nose up at fixed axle yoyos that are sub 50g?
I don’t know if this is a totally true statement, the TMBR This-A-Way That-A-Way was pretty popular this year and alot of the offerings were sub 50g. My standard Walnut is 39g.
I think it comes down to the actual throwing. Lighter fixies require more finesse all around, and not everyone is patient enough for throw soft. Last week I was throwing my [Play Simply](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-friday-throws/294546/1525) and that is one of my heaviest No Jives at 59 grams.
Its a different experience. Some days I can throw heavy, but I’ll feel it the next day in the elbow. Then I’ll throw light. I have also noticed throwing light hard can feel awkward and cause some elbow pain as well as its more of a snap of the joint. It really comes down to technique. @edhaponik says it in his YYE tutorials, “Throw for the Trick” and not all tricks need full gas, but some guys are just always full throttle.
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### Author:  [@yoyojoe](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyojoe)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2020, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-wrong-with-light-fixed-axle-yoyos/331469/12 "2020-12-22T17:22:15Z")
Probably my favorite fixie is this walnut knack around 43g. I usually gravitate to 50-55g fixies but this one is my exception. I feel like it’s easier to make a good playing yoyo in the 50g range rather than making a light yoyo that people like.
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### Author:  [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2020, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-wrong-with-light-fixed-axle-yoyos/331469/13 "2020-12-23T13:14:11Z")
My Bloodcell Run will feature zebra and white oak, both about 46g.
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### Author:  [@Flyinghippo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Flyinghippo)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2020, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-wrong-with-light-fixed-axle-yoyos/331469/14 "2020-12-23T19:26:19Z")
I cut my teeth on a sliver bullet which is about 50g. I wouldn’t have a problem trying something lighter.