# Whats up with the Avant Garde 2 hate?

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-up-with-the-avant-garde-2-hate/45907>\
**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [November 29, 2012, 11:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-up-with-the-avant-garde-2-hate/45907 "2012-11-29T23:56:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 1:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-up-with-the-avant-garde-2-hate/45907/41 "2012-12-05T01:45:49Z")

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One time when I used a AG2, the second it hit my hand it spun out. Not just once, every time! And it does not spin very long, IMO, it’s way overpriced!

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**Author:** ![xxjohnsonxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/b782af/32.png) [@xxjohnsonxx](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/xxjohnsonxx)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-up-with-the-avant-garde-2-hate/45907/42 "2012-12-05T01:51:22Z")

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i tried it for five minutes at triple crown. I thought it was a super smooth yoyo and it didn’t sit to badly in the hand. IMO i would get one if i could get my hands on it. Fits what i look for just i don’t have cash

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**Author:** ![SuperSnSProductions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@SuperSnSProductions](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SuperSnSProductions)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 3:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-up-with-the-avant-garde-2-hate/45907/43 "2012-12-05T03:29:39Z")

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> [@Slade\_Riggs](#):
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> If someone dislikes something they will often over exagerate what they don’t like about it to make it seem like they just didn’t decide that on a whim and to validate themselves. Not saying everybody does that but it definitly happens. I allways try to like a yoyo even if the shape doesn’t appeal to me, I give them all a fighting chance.

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**Author:** ![mx.yoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dbc845/32.png) [@mx.yoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mx.yoyo)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 3:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-up-with-the-avant-garde-2-hate/45907/44 "2012-12-05T03:35:25Z")

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Can anyone tell me how it compares to the Glacier Express?

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**Author:** ![Slade\_Riggs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Slade\_Riggs](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slade_Riggs)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 2:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-up-with-the-avant-garde-2-hate/45907/45 "2012-12-06T02:22:42Z")

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> [@mx.yoyo](#):
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> Can anyone tell me how it compares to the Glacier Express?

The glacier express is better but still too heavy for me to really like it. My favorite yoyo shaped that way is definitly the x^3 ZeuS. It just blows the glacier express and the avant garde 2 out of the ball park. I got mine finally and I’m not letting go of it.

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