# What's the most "neutral" monometal out there? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [May 11, 2019, 12:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-the-most-neutral-monometal-out-there/302201 "2019-05-11T00:20:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-the-most-neutral-monometal-out-there/302201/21 "2019-05-11T06:51:21Z")
> [@anon5341354](#): > > the Yoyofactory Cypher Wow yeah this one is .. _generic._ > **[YoYoFactory](https://yoyoexpert.com/collections/yoyofactory?variant=18873889412)** > > YoYoFactory was born in 2004 with a focus on functional technology to improve the playing experience. This has been a goal of the company which relies on the experience gathered from over 30 years of demonstrating yoyos around the planet. The end... > [@anon5341354](#): > > Yoyofactory Al Dream Nice one, also very typical. The other two (Adel, Triple Point) I haven’t heard of at all? ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-the-most-neutral-monometal-out-there/302201/22 "2019-05-11T09:09:17Z")
Here’s the Yoyo Scientific Triple Point. It was designed by our very own @Cannon. [Yoyo Scientific](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-scientific/294904) The Japan Technology Adel was never sold at YYE. It’s a rather standard looking W shaped yoyo with very average specs. It is a great yoyo and definitely has that ‘made in Japan’ quality, but it probably might not be worth the $160 price tag. ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-the-most-neutral-monometal-out-there/302201/23 "2019-05-11T09:13:07Z")
Here is another that looks to be very neutral. Being called the ‘Helvetica’ I would imagine that was exactly YYR’s aim. I have a hunch if I ever owned one of these it would make it into my top three. > **[Helvetica](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/yoyos/products/helvetica-yoyo-by-yoyorecreation?variant=1587)** > > The latest series from Yoyorecreation is inspired by some famous typefaces. This is the Helvetica! The goal of this series was to take the structure and features of the specific font and interpret it into a yo-yo design. The Helvetica is a... ---
**Author:** ![TheYoyoer27](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/theyoyoer27/32/49058_2.png) [@TheYoyoer27](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheYoyoer27)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 9:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-the-most-neutral-monometal-out-there/302201/24 "2019-05-11T09:58:21Z")
I actually made a topic for this! > [@Best jack of all trades yo-yo?](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-jack-of-all-trades-yo-yo/296392): > > I nominate the cadence. wink ---
**Author:** ![beeebon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/beeebon/32/30672_2.png) [@beeebon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/beeebon)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-the-most-neutral-monometal-out-there/302201/25 "2019-05-11T12:42:27Z")
To give a very bland answer I vote for the Shutter and the N12 I no longer own either though ---
**Author:** ![Dust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dust/32/83340_2.png) [@Dust](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Dust)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-the-most-neutral-monometal-out-there/302201/26 "2019-05-11T13:05:43Z")
Puffin2 is my vote. ---
**Author:** ![threebearrries](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/threebearrries/32/42073_2.png) [@threebearrries](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/threebearrries)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-the-most-neutral-monometal-out-there/302201/27 "2019-05-11T14:50:02Z")
I don’t think neutral yoyos are necessarily the jack of all trades though. For example, you mentioned the Cadence, which is not neutral with its small diameter and wide gap. ---
**Author:** ![TheYoyoer27](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/theyoyoer27/32/49058_2.png) [@TheYoyoer27](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheYoyoer27)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-the-most-neutral-monometal-out-there/302201/28 "2019-05-11T15:02:25Z")
> [@codinghorror](#): > > It’s worth discussing what “neutral” means. I think it means **jack of all trades, good at everything, not bad at anything** … but also not _exceptional_ at any specific niche yo-yo style / tricks. I’m just doing it off what he says ---
**Author:** ![smileypants707](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smileypants707/32/19045_2.png) [@smileypants707](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smileypants707)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-the-most-neutral-monometal-out-there/302201/29 "2019-05-11T16:15:30Z")
That’s what she said ---
**Author:** ![hobbygod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hobbygod/32/120997_2.png) [@hobbygod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobbygod)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-the-most-neutral-monometal-out-there/302201/30 "2019-05-11T18:01:42Z")
Definitely older, but I’d say the OD 54 kinda fits this imo ---
**Author:** ![yyfben2.deactivated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ccd318/32.png) [@yyfben2.deactivated](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yyfben2.deactivated)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-the-most-neutral-monometal-out-there/302201/31 "2019-05-11T21:26:43Z")
I think the ‘dream’ was our modern generic meaning least to offend anyone design. 888 was designed at its time to be the neutral version to the more radical G5 and GM2 designs that had preceded it. Cypher was actually designed as a signature model but the player had a few things going on and instead it got the ‘general telease’ treatment and not so much love or attention. I still really dig it. ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-the-most-neutral-monometal-out-there/302201/32 "2019-05-11T21:29:28Z")
Yeah but he is right. Cadence is a terrible, almost opposite example. If what you were trying to do is use the Cadence as an example, you actually _didn’t_ want a jack of all trades… ---
**Author:** ![Cannon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/919ad9/32.png) [@Cannon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Cannon)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-the-most-neutral-monometal-out-there/302201/33 "2019-05-11T22:21:51Z")
Thanks for the shoutout 😁 my final semester of college knocked me down a bit, I hope to start posting pictures on the yys instagram and update the website more once the busy season at work ends (another week or so). I would agree that the triple point fits this well and that was the hope of the design (jack of all trades, master of none). Also the shutter fits well into this category. ---
**Author:** ![TheYoyoer27](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/theyoyoer27/32/49058_2.png) [@TheYoyoer27](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheYoyoer27)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 11:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-the-most-neutral-monometal-out-there/302201/35 "2019-05-11T23:59:58Z")
You’re probably right. I have a different play style than most people, so my tastes are different. ---
**Author:** ![crackout](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/crackout/32/44608_2.png) [@crackout](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/crackout)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-the-most-neutral-monometal-out-there/302201/36 "2019-05-12T19:22:00Z")
Pyro 3 by Hspin. It can do everything but it’s not extreme in any way. Maybe in awesomeness though. [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-the-most-neutral-monometal-out-there/302201.md?page=1)