# What's a good vintage butterfly-shaped responsive yoyo with a starburst response? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [August 31, 2021, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-a-good-vintage-butterfly-shaped-responsive-yoyo-with-a-starburst-response/344012 "2021-08-31T18:16:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mediocrekid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/958977/32.png) [@mediocrekid](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mediocrekid)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-a-good-vintage-butterfly-shaped-responsive-yoyo-with-a-starburst-response/344012/1 "2021-08-31T18:16:27Z")
I know a lot of modern yoyos for string tricks nowadays use rubber response pads, but call me a sucker for nostalgia. What’s a good yoyo that’s butterfly shaped, first existed around the 90s and early 2000s, has a starburst response(but it’s not too responsive in which it will snag the string), and capable of doing some intermediate and advanced tricks like the matrix, buddhas revenge, and skin the gerbil? On a related note, what’s your thoughts on the Spintastics Tigershark? Or are there better examples? ---
**Author:** ![Joethepoothrows](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/joethepoothrows/32/76905_2.png) [@Joethepoothrows](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Joethepoothrows)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-a-good-vintage-butterfly-shaped-responsive-yoyo-with-a-starburst-response/344012/2 "2021-08-31T19:25:50Z")
duncan butterfly is good and cheap ---
**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-a-good-vintage-butterfly-shaped-responsive-yoyo-with-a-starburst-response/344012/3 "2021-08-31T19:47:23Z")
> [@mediocrekid](#): > > Spintastics Tigershark? This is a good one, you may also like these; > **[Duncan Butterfly XT](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/duncan-butterfly-xt-yoyo?_pos=1&_sid=3f353ace9&_ss=r&variant=30241363787850)** > > Looking for that great beginners yo-yo at price tag that won't break the bank? Look no further then the Butterfly XT! An exceptional way to get started with bearing yo-yos! Great for learning the basic to intermediate tricks, and there's really no... > **[Spinstar](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/spinstar-yoyo-by-yoyofactory?variant=12138958553162)** > > YoYoFactory has been working hard to create a brand new line of responsive entry level yo-yos. This is the Spinstar! The Spinstar is the ultimate yo-yo for beginners! Easy to learn with, low maintenance, and extra durable - The Spinstar has... > **[YYF Fast 201](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/yyf-fast-201-yoyo?variant=18870353540)** > > YoYoFactory presents the F.A.S.T. 201 - the first yo-yo in their line to feature their unique "fully active starburst technology."With three settings of play you can tune the FAST 201 for beginner to intermediate tricks - just adjust the gap and line... > **[Yomega Alpha Wing](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/yomega-alpha-wing-yoyo?variant=18874895812)** > > The latest addition to the excellent beginner yo-yo lineup form Yomega is the all new Alpha Wing!The Alpha Wing is a super fun low maintenance fixed axle yo-yo designed for beginner string trick play and fixed axle enthusiasts! It has a nice high... and on the Auction Site, you can typically find SuperYo Renegades (a plastic 3 and 1) [https://www.ebay.com/itm/313649601865?hash=item4906f91d49:g:dMYAAOSwtZJgkcUF](https://www.ebay.com/itm/313649601865?hash=item4906f91d49:g:dMYAAOSwtZJgkcUF) ---
**Author:** ![Jerm5462](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/cc9497/32.png) [@Jerm5462](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jerm5462)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-a-good-vintage-butterfly-shaped-responsive-yoyo-with-a-starburst-response/344012/4 "2021-08-31T21:11:28Z")
Any of these better than the other? ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-a-good-vintage-butterfly-shaped-responsive-yoyo-with-a-starburst-response/344012/5 "2021-08-31T21:15:51Z")
The Spinstar is quite good, but becomes absolutely amazing when you change out the plastic transaxle for a Loop 720 bearing and (green) spacers. Of course, that drives up the cost rather considerably, but if you already happen to have a Loop 720 (U.S. edition), then you can harvest its parts at no extra cost. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![stevejspins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@stevejspins](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stevejspins)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-a-good-vintage-butterfly-shaped-responsive-yoyo-with-a-starburst-response/344012/6 "2021-08-31T21:19:42Z")
Fast 201 was the first one that came to mind. ---
**Author:** ![djinni\_cake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/djinni_cake/32/113245_2.png) [@djinni\_cake](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/djinni_cake)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-a-good-vintage-butterfly-shaped-responsive-yoyo-with-a-starburst-response/344012/7 "2021-08-31T21:57:33Z")
Do they have to be green spacers? I’ve got extra red spacers I was thinking of trying ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-a-good-vintage-butterfly-shaped-responsive-yoyo-with-a-starburst-response/344012/8 "2021-08-31T22:02:55Z")
Sure, why not. I haven’t tried red spacers, and given how it plays with green spacers, my suspicion is that red spacers would yield too narrow a gap. But it’s worth a try! ---
**Author:** ![Lido](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/lido/32/173650_2.png) [@Lido](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lido)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-a-good-vintage-butterfly-shaped-responsive-yoyo-with-a-starburst-response/344012/9 "2021-08-31T22:20:47Z")
Tigershark was my first thought. It’s a little sharp where the pogs snap into the halves, but other than that, it plays very similarly to the Butterfly XT (which I don’t think is vintage enough to fit the constraints you listed). ---
**Author:** ![mykl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mykl/32/128084_2.png) [@mykl](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mykl)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 11:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-a-good-vintage-butterfly-shaped-responsive-yoyo-with-a-starburst-response/344012/10 "2021-08-31T23:07:42Z")
I’ll recommend a Yomega Stealth Raider ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 11:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-a-good-vintage-butterfly-shaped-responsive-yoyo-with-a-starburst-response/344012/11 "2021-08-31T23:07:52Z")
Spintastics Tigershark, YYJ Dark Magic, Yomega Hyper Warp wing or Hyper Warp Heavy Wing all come to mind. I’ve had them all and they play good. You may find some on ebay occasionally. I still play my Tiger Shark. ---
**Author:** ![kevinm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kevinm/32/697_2.png) [@kevinm](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kevinm)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-a-good-vintage-butterfly-shaped-responsive-yoyo-with-a-starburst-response/344012/12 "2021-09-01T15:23:16Z")
The Saber Wings were pretty cool. For the tricks you are talking about there are tons of modern throws though. Plastic and metal, with pad response. ---
**Author:** ![bheinz63](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bheinz63/32/137310_2.png) [@bheinz63](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bheinz63)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-a-good-vintage-butterfly-shaped-responsive-yoyo-with-a-starburst-response/344012/13 "2021-09-01T16:14:52Z")
This may sound crazy, but a Duncan Butterfly lol ---
**Author:** ![mediocrekid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/958977/32.png) [@mediocrekid](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mediocrekid)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 6:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-a-good-vintage-butterfly-shaped-responsive-yoyo-with-a-starburst-response/344012/14 "2021-09-02T06:33:25Z")
The FAST 201 sounds interesting since it can also widen its string gap for more advanced tricks. Is its unresponsive mode good enough for intermediate tricks like skin the gerbil or cold fusion? What makes me hesitant is that is it a durable yoyo? Will the starburst protrusions break off easily? Some people have mixed reviews over this yoyo cuz it has major low spin time and eats string(cuz it’s starburst). The Renegade sounds intriguing due to its customization purpose, but I think I prefer something a bit more affordable and available. ---
**Author:** ![mediocrekid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/958977/32.png) [@mediocrekid](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mediocrekid)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 6:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-a-good-vintage-butterfly-shaped-responsive-yoyo-with-a-starburst-response/344012/15 "2021-09-02T06:35:23Z")
I took a look on the shopping website. I like that it can become wider and less responsive. Will it be good enough for intermediate tricks like cold fusion or skin the gerbil if I use the unresponsive setting? ---
**Author:** ![mediocrekid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/958977/32.png) [@mediocrekid](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mediocrekid)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-a-good-vintage-butterfly-shaped-responsive-yoyo-with-a-starburst-response/344012/16 "2021-09-02T06:37:39Z")
I’ll have to take a look at them. Actually, I’m aware that there are modern yoyos with response pads to pull off these tricks. But like I said, I’m a sucker for nostalgia ---
**Author:** ![kevinm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kevinm/32/697_2.png) [@kevinm](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kevinm)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-a-good-vintage-butterfly-shaped-responsive-yoyo-with-a-starburst-response/344012/17 "2021-09-02T12:33:00Z")
I know you don’t care for pads, but you have an option to tune your response with the pad system. It requires patience. The Duncan Freehand Zero is good for old school string tricks. All yo-yos are nostalgic. ---
**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-a-good-vintage-butterfly-shaped-responsive-yoyo-with-a-starburst-response/344012/18 "2021-09-02T12:39:22Z")
This may be the Startburst Yo-Yo you are looking for, [YoYoJam Patriot](https://yoyo.fandom.com/wiki/YoYoJam_Patriot) . > [@Best Organics?](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-organics/344031/11): > > Do you want to play responsive or unresponsive? If you like Old School plastic and you want Starburst response with an adjustable gap to play either responsive or unresponsive, than there is one yoyo that fits this description. An early 2000s [YoYoJam Patriot](http://www.yoyomuseum.com/museum_view.php?action=view&subaction=exhibit&exhibitid=99). However the Cabal is very similar if feel, but its unresponsive with a step bump. [20200704\_102825] [20200704\_114434] ---
**Author:** ![EOS44](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eos44/32/47059_2.png) [@EOS44](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/EOS44)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-a-good-vintage-butterfly-shaped-responsive-yoyo-with-a-starburst-response/344012/19 "2021-09-02T14:19:27Z")
If you can find one, get an OG Duncan Wheels. Fantastic yoyo that everyone seems to forget for some reason. ---
**Author:** ![MarkD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/markd/32/40845_2.png) [@MarkD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MarkD)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-a-good-vintage-butterfly-shaped-responsive-yoyo-with-a-starburst-response/344012/20 "2021-09-02T14:21:49Z")
I learned cold fusion on a fast201. After that I bought a modern unresponsive plastic yoyo though (replay pro) to get the much longer spin times. [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/whats-a-good-vintage-butterfly-shaped-responsive-yoyo-with-a-starburst-response/344012.md?page=2)