# What tricks have you discovered for making a Deep State as responsive as possible? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [March 1, 2023, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-tricks-have-you-discovered-for-making-a-deep-state-as-responsive-as-possible/371099 "2023-03-01T15:47:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-tricks-have-you-discovered-for-making-a-deep-state-as-responsive-as-possible/371099/1 "2023-03-01T15:47:11Z")
I love me some Deep State, but I do find myself wishing it was snappy. ---
**Author:** ![kretzschmar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kretzschmar/32/668707_2.png) [@kretzschmar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kretzschmar)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-tricks-have-you-discovered-for-making-a-deep-state-as-responsive-as-possible/371099/2 "2023-03-01T16:04:00Z")
Packing the bearing with Vaseline or whatever heavy grease you can find ---
**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-tricks-have-you-discovered-for-making-a-deep-state-as-responsive-as-possible/371099/3 "2023-03-01T16:21:07Z")
Remove the c-clips and shields, pack with silicone grease, reinstall the shields and clips. Been consistent and haven’t had to relube in a over a year. I also use Slick-6 Strings for added response grip. ---
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-tricks-have-you-discovered-for-making-a-deep-state-as-responsive-as-possible/371099/4 "2023-03-01T16:28:40Z")
Will any ol’ silicon freeze do the trick? I think I have some RC car transmission silicon grease laying around somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-tricks-have-you-discovered-for-making-a-deep-state-as-responsive-as-possible/371099/5 "2023-03-01T16:33:41Z")
There are players who use the RC grease. @DocPop uses the Traxxas tubes. ---
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-tricks-have-you-discovered-for-making-a-deep-state-as-responsive-as-possible/371099/6 "2023-03-01T16:37:33Z")
Nice. Pretty sure I have a little tube of Traxxas 1647 somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![safetypin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/safetypin/32/128453_2.png) [@safetypin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/safetypin)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-tricks-have-you-discovered-for-making-a-deep-state-as-responsive-as-possible/371099/7 "2023-03-01T16:49:10Z")
Replacing the shields and clips seems like a fools errand to me. I’m impressed that you did it, and it makes so much sense that would achieve snappiness. ---
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-tricks-have-you-discovered-for-making-a-deep-state-as-responsive-as-possible/371099/8 "2023-03-01T16:50:00Z")
On this topic, wondering if anyone’s taken a concave C bearing, put some adhesive in it, and used that in a deep state. Turning it into a Frankenstein fixie. ---
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-tricks-have-you-discovered-for-making-a-deep-state-as-responsive-as-possible/371099/9 "2023-03-01T16:51:31Z")
I just opened mine up to check out the clips and my immediate thought was how the hell am I going to pop those out and not lose them. ---
**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-tricks-have-you-discovered-for-making-a-deep-state-as-responsive-as-possible/371099/10 "2023-03-01T16:53:48Z")
It just keeps all the grease in the race instead of flushing out into the bearing seat and having to regrease more often. I also come from a bike maintenance background, where shields are imperative to hold in grease, but keep the grime out. C-Clips actually are easier to put in than remove. ---
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-tricks-have-you-discovered-for-making-a-deep-state-as-responsive-as-possible/371099/11 "2023-03-01T16:55:05Z")
What’s your tip for removing them? ---
**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-tricks-have-you-discovered-for-making-a-deep-state-as-responsive-as-possible/371099/12 "2023-03-01T16:55:52Z")
Push Pin, Tac or small safety pin. If you are planning on putting it back, you can get away with only doing one side. ---
**Author:** ![CaptainFoxxButt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captainfoxxbutt/32/197384_2.png) [@CaptainFoxxButt](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/CaptainFoxxButt)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-tricks-have-you-discovered-for-making-a-deep-state-as-responsive-as-possible/371099/13 "2023-03-01T17:16:56Z")
Ammo string, and really thick grease. Like everyday. I really don’t like the deepstate. It take too much maintenance. I love the shape and feel though. Just wish they used an a bearing. I hear that a spacer and a halfspec works really great, but it makes me wonder why they didn’t ship them like that instead. ---
**Author:** ![Overtinkering](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/overtinkering/32/663225_2.png) [@Overtinkering](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Overtinkering)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-tricks-have-you-discovered-for-making-a-deep-state-as-responsive-as-possible/371099/14 "2023-03-01T20:48:51Z")
I very much enjoy the Deep state, and the setup that I settled on and enjoy the most is the silicone bearing setup. I do not reshield the bearing after I remove them. I also just use the bulk string nothing fancy. I have not messed around with a slim bearing or blank. ---
**Author:** ![Overtinkering](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/overtinkering/32/663225_2.png) [@Overtinkering](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Overtinkering)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-tricks-have-you-discovered-for-making-a-deep-state-as-responsive-as-possible/371099/15 "2023-03-01T20:50:34Z")
I like this idea I have some spacers I might mess around with that there’s been some fun suggestions in the chat here ---
**Author:** ![Shwa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shwa/32/108351_2.png) [@Shwa](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shwa)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-tricks-have-you-discovered-for-making-a-deep-state-as-responsive-as-possible/371099/16 "2023-03-01T20:51:55Z")
Can someone take a snapshot of these spacers? I guess I am not aware of what they look like or who they’re from. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-tricks-have-you-discovered-for-making-a-deep-state-as-responsive-as-possible/371099/17 "2023-03-01T20:52:45Z")
> **[Dif-E-Yo Shims](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/dif-e-yo-shims?variant=21035568004)** > > If you ever wanted a wider gap on your yo-yo the best way to achieve this is using "shims". Shims go on either side of a bearing to keep it out of the bearing well which increases your gap width to make the yo-yo less responsive.In the past these... Thin Shims ---
**Author:** ![Pun1sh3R](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pun1sh3r/32/193125_2.png) [@Pun1sh3R](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Pun1sh3R)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-tricks-have-you-discovered-for-making-a-deep-state-as-responsive-as-possible/371099/18 "2023-03-01T21:02:23Z")
I used the Dif-E-Yo .010 Shims. One on each Bearing Post with a Luftverk Bearing Blank when I set the Deeper State up for Fixed last Month. Mr. Adamantiumpops above this post! Runs shims and bearing blank in a deep state. [Fixed Axle February-WEEK 1 - #75 by adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fixed-axle-february-week-1/368997/75) I assume it would also work with shims and a Half Spec Bearing. But the Greased standard bearing has worked well for me. ---
**Author:** ![Shwa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shwa/32/108351_2.png) [@Shwa](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shwa)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-tricks-have-you-discovered-for-making-a-deep-state-as-responsive-as-possible/371099/19 "2023-03-01T21:11:23Z")
Thanks! I’ll nab a set. ---
**Author:** ![Overtinkering](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/overtinkering/32/663225_2.png) [@Overtinkering](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Overtinkering)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 11:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-tricks-have-you-discovered-for-making-a-deep-state-as-responsive-as-possible/371099/20 "2023-03-01T23:34:18Z")
Okay I might be mistaken here but with the side effects even with adding the shim I couldn’t get them to tighten. I’ll try again later Also the shims I’m using are yo-yo jam and I can’t remember the thickness but it was the red one haha Anyhow I do find the play of this yoyo really does shine with the silicone [Uploading: 16777136172961190700824774755985.jp [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-tricks-have-you-discovered-for-making-a-deep-state-as-responsive-as-possible/371099.md?page=2)