# What should I do? (Shoysauce)
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-should-i-do-shoysauce/38542
**Category:** Traders Feedback
**Created:** [June 7, 2012, 2:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-should-i-do-shoysauce/38542 "2012-06-07T02:55:34Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)
#### Post date: [June 9, 2012, 3:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-should-i-do-shoysauce/38542/21 "2012-06-09T03:21:55Z")
> [@Deeman103](#):
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> Just out of curiosity, what is the consequence for such scamming? I alao live in chevy chase maybe i could help some how?
If it were my parents choosing the consequence, I wouldn’t be alive. In reality, I would imagining getting banned from the forums and giving each person he scammed something extra.
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### Author:  [@Deeman103](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Deeman103)
#### Post date: [June 9, 2012, 3:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-should-i-do-shoysauce/38542/22 "2012-06-09T03:38:58Z")
Howd he get away with 5+ scams? Im guiltilly (if thats a word) impressed. How would one go about enforcing said consequences when obe has no direct contact with the scammer?
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### Author:  [@YoCyanightYo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoCyanightYo)
#### Post date: [June 9, 2012, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-should-i-do-shoysauce/38542/23 "2012-06-09T06:32:31Z")
He did all of the scams at the same time.
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### Author:  [@vegabomb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/vegabomb)
#### Post date: [June 9, 2012, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-should-i-do-shoysauce/38542/24 "2012-06-09T08:19:11Z")
A word to the wise. When a user has very little feedback actually look at each one. Compare. In this case the first feedback left wasn’t reciprocated. That should be a red flag.
When I first began trading I was on another forum. I shipped first. But… I asked for and received a phone number. I called the other guy and decided that he was an adult and I was good with shipping.
Do some extra work before you ship something off. If it doesn’t feel right it most likely isn’t.
Let me say that again…
If it doesn’t “feel” right it most likely isn’t.
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### Author:  [@b.cohen](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/b.cohen)
#### Post date: [June 10, 2012, 3:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-should-i-do-shoysauce/38542/25 "2012-06-10T03:24:33Z")
Guys, I know shoysauce and he is in some not great circumstances at the moment. He isn’t at home now and wont be for awhile. Bmel posted on another thread about him about how the throws might be taking some time to get to people. Please dont be so quick to judge him, most of the people talking about him have only waited a week too which is way to quick to come to the conclusion that he is a scammer. For anyone he scammed, calling his home number wont do you any good. His email is [sam.shoyer@gmail.com](mailto:sam.shoyer@gmail.com) and please talk to him and work things out. He is a good guy and has worked things out with MarenelloKid who thought he scammed him. Please just talk to him and try to work things out
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### Author:  [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)
#### Post date: [June 10, 2012, 4:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-should-i-do-shoysauce/38542/26 "2012-06-10T04:09:36Z")
> [@b.cohen](#):
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> Guys, I know shoysauce and he is in some not great circumstances at the moment. He isn’t at home now and wont be for awhile. Bmel posted on another thread about him about how the throws might be taking some time to get to people. Please dont be so quick to judge him, most of the people talking about him have only waited a week too which is way to quick to come to the conclusion that he is a scammer. For anyone he scammed, calling his home number wont do you any good. His email is [sam.shoyer@gmail.com](mailto:sam.shoyer@gmail.com) and please talk to him and work things out. He is a good guy and has worked things out with MarenelloKid who thought he scammed him. Please just talk to him and try to work things out
_cough_ BS _cough_
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### Author:  [@wildsky9](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/wildsky9)
#### Post date: [June 10, 2012, 4:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-should-i-do-shoysauce/38542/27 "2012-06-10T04:43:51Z")
I’m another DC yoyoer. I don’t really know everything that’s been going on, but I would recommend sending shoysauce an email. I think its [sam.shoyer@gmail.com](mailto:sam.shoyer@gmail.com). If there’s anything I can do to help, just ask.
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### Author:  [@yoyoavenger](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoavenger)
#### Post date: [June 10, 2012, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-should-i-do-shoysauce/38542/28 "2012-06-10T17:31:29Z")
It’s not bs. I know everyone of these yoyoers in Chevy Chase. Sam sorta looks up to me so I’m trying to guilt him into returning the Yoyos. If you have dealt with him, onece again, pm me and I will make sure you get your Yoyos back or are compensated.
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### Author:  [@shoysauce](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/shoysauce)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2012, 1:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-should-i-do-shoysauce/38542/29 "2012-06-11T01:37:00Z")
hey yall, sorry about all the scamming i guess. ive decided to give back the throws so thank yoyoavenger. pm me or email me with your adress and the throw/throws i took from you. also shoutout to yoyospirit…your a ■■■■
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### Author:  [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2012, 1:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-should-i-do-shoysauce/38542/30 "2012-06-11T01:40:40Z")
> [@shoysauce](#):
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> hey yall, sorry about all the scamming i guess. ive decided to give back the throws so thank yoyoavenger. pm me or email me with your adress and the throw/throws i took from you. also shoutout to yoyospirit…your a jerk
Why thank you ;). Also, use correct grammar. It’s “you’re”, not “your”.
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### Author:  [@shoysauce](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/shoysauce)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2012, 1:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-should-i-do-shoysauce/38542/31 "2012-06-11T01:43:48Z")
> [@yoyospirit](#):
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> > [@shoysauce](#):
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> > hey yall, sorry about all the scamming i guess. ive decided to give back the throws so thank yoyoavenger. pm me or email me with your adress and the throw/throws i took from you. also shoutout to yoyospirit…your a jerk
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> Why thank you ;). Also, use correct grammar. It’s “you’re”, not “your”.
I really wish I had scammed you dude
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### Author:  [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2012, 1:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-should-i-do-shoysauce/38542/32 "2012-06-11T01:45:31Z")
> [@shoysauce](#):
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> > [@yoyospirit](#):
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> > > [@shoysauce](#):
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> > > hey yall, sorry about all the scamming i guess. ive decided to give back the throws so thank yoyoavenger. pm me or email me with your adress and the throw/throws i took from you. also shoutout to yoyospirit…your a jerk
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> > Why thank you ;). Also, use correct grammar. It’s “you’re”, not “your”.
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> I really wish I had scammed you dude
What? 4 people wasn’t enough?
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### Author:  [@shoysauce](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/shoysauce)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2012, 1:50am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-should-i-do-shoysauce/38542/33 "2012-06-11T01:50:33Z")
> [@yoyospirit](#):
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> > [@shoysauce](#):
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> > > [@yoyospirit](#):
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> > > > [@shoysauce](#):
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> > > > hey yall, sorry about all the scamming i guess. ive decided to give back the throws so thank yoyoavenger. pm me or email me with your adress and the throw/throws i took from you. also shoutout to yoyospirit…your a jerk
> > >
> > > Why thank you ;). Also, use correct grammar. It’s “you’re”, not “your”.
> >
> > I really wish I had scammed you dude
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> What? 4 people wasn’t enough?
haha it was 6 people. let me tell you how its gonna go down. im gonna make a new email, get a new account, make a forums account, wait a couple of months while i gain feedback and then scam you. basically from now on you cant really trust anyone trading with you. im gonna delete my account soon or maybe get kicked off the forums so i just want my parting word to be ■■■■ YOU and that YOU’RE a cunt
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### Author:  [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2012, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-should-i-do-shoysauce/38542/34 "2012-06-11T01:51:23Z")
> [@shoysauce](#):
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> > [@yoyospirit](#):
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> > > > > [@shoysauce](#):
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> > > > > hey yall, sorry about all the scamming i guess. ive decided to give back the throws so thank yoyoavenger. pm me or email me with your adress and the throw/throws i took from you. also shoutout to yoyospirit…your a jerk
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> > > > Why thank you ;). Also, use correct grammar. It’s “you’re”, not “your”.
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> > > I really wish I had scammed you dude
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> > What? 4 people wasn’t enough?
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> haha it was 6 people. let me tell you how its gonna go down. im gonna make a new email, get a new account, make a forums account, wait a couple of months while i gain feedback and then scam you. basically from now on you cant really trust anyone trading with you. im gonna delete my account soon or maybe get kicked off the forums so i just want my parting word to be \*\*\*\* YOU and that YOU’RE a \*\*\*\*
I’ll be waiting :wink:
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### Author:  [@jrodriguez](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jrodriguez)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2012, 2:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-should-i-do-shoysauce/38542/35 "2012-06-11T02:06:55Z")
Shoysauce is on vacation from the forums. Any help you can offer to get the yoyos returned would be very much appreciated, yoyoavenger.
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### Author:  [@throwrw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/throwrw)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2012, 2:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-should-i-do-shoysauce/38542/36 "2012-06-11T02:12:33Z")
> [@shoysauce](#):
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> > [@yoyospirit](#):
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> > > [@shoysauce](#):
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> > > > [@yoyospirit](#):
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> > > > > [@shoysauce](#):
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> > > > > hey yall, sorry about all the scamming i guess. ive decided to give back the throws so thank yoyoavenger. pm me or email me with your adress and the throw/throws i took from you. also shoutout to yoyospirit…your a jerk
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> > > > Why thank you ;). Also, use correct grammar. It’s “you’re”, not “your”.
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> > > I really wish I had scammed you dude
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> > What? 4 people wasn’t enough?
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> haha it was 6 people. let me tell you how its gonna go down. im gonna make a new email, get a new account, make a forums account, wait a couple of months while i gain feedback and then scam you. basically from now on you cant really trust anyone trading with you. im gonna delete my account soon or maybe get kicked off the forums so i just want my parting word to be \*\*\*\* YOU and that YOU’RE a \*\*\*\*
seems a little excessive if you ask me…
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### Author:  [@b.cohen](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/b.cohen)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2012, 2:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-should-i-do-shoysauce/38542/37 "2012-06-11T02:15:30Z")
> [@jrodriguez](#):
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> Shoysauce is on vacation from the forums. Any help you can offer to get the yoyos returned would be very much appreciated, yoyoavenger.
Banning him just made things a lot harder for those wanting their throws back. Once again his email is [sam.shoyer@gmail.com](mailto:sam.shoyer@gmail.com) email him if you want a throw back. Bad move, Whoever banned him
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### Author:  [@Coffelt](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Coffelt)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2012, 2:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-should-i-do-shoysauce/38542/38 "2012-06-11T02:20:41Z")
Not to keep this going… How is any of this to provide confidence in the ethics I believe are the core of throwing a yoyo. I would like to state that this in my opinion seems like an isolated incident of what seems to be one bad apple. I hope the moderators will help to restore our faith in the honor system. Maturity may be the dark pit of this and I hope the younger population of this forum learns from the wrong doing within this. Misleading and “scamming” is just not the way you would like to be treated. So…why do it to someone else.
Good luck in all your trades, purchases and otherwise.
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### Author:  [@jrodriguez](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jrodriguez)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2012, 2:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-should-i-do-shoysauce/38542/39 "2012-06-11T02:35:55Z")
> [@b.cohen](#):
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> > [@jrodriguez](#):
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> > Shoysauce is on vacation from the forums. Any help you can offer to get the yoyos returned would be very much appreciated, yoyoavenger.
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> Banning him just made things a lot harder for those wanting their throws back. Once again his email is [sam.shoyer@gmail.com](mailto:sam.shoyer@gmail.com) email him if you want a throw back. Bad move, Whoever banned him
Unfortunately, when a person decides to blatantly circumvent the language filters, on top of flaunting a plan to create new accounts to pursue more scamming – as was the case in the posts shoysauce made that I deleted – there really isn’t any other option than to ban them.
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### Author:  [@b.cohen](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/b.cohen)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2012, 2:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-should-i-do-shoysauce/38542/40 "2012-06-11T02:48:55Z")
> [@jrodriguez](#):
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> > [@b.cohen](#):
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> > > [@jrodriguez](#):
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> > > Shoysauce is on vacation from the forums. Any help you can offer to get the yoyos returned would be very much appreciated, yoyoavenger.
> >
> > Banning him just made things a lot harder for those wanting their throws back. Once again his email is [sam.shoyer@gmail.com](mailto:sam.shoyer@gmail.com) email him if you want a throw back. Bad move, Whoever banned him
>
> Unfortunately, when a person decides to blatantly circumvent the language filters, on top of flaunting a plan to create new accounts to pursue more scamming – as was the case in the posts shoysauce made that I deleted – there really isn’t any other option than to ban them.
Okay. I can’t really make much of an argument here but as long as people have his information and contact him, they will get their yoyos back and all will work out
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