# What shape is what?

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**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [December 13, 2013, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-shape-is-what/62100 "2013-12-13T22:25:27Z")\
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**Post date:** [December 13, 2013, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-shape-is-what/62100/1 "2013-12-13T22:25:27Z")

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I have always been told that the yyf northstar was a H-Shape. Now, the one drop benchmarks drop and the V-shape looks just like a northstar or werrd time series. I thought these were H-Shape but others tell me it has to look like a duncan barracuda for it to be H but the H-Shaped benchmark is not like that either. Can someone explain exactly what defines each shape and maybe a well known example? Would appreciate.

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**Author:** ![Jake\_Elliott](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@Jake\_Elliott](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jake_Elliott)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2013, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-shape-is-what/62100/2 "2013-12-13T22:28:00Z")

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Copied from an earlier post…

H Shape:  
How to Identify: The exaggerated rims. The “true” H-shape yoyo that gave the shape its name is the Hspin Envy (not on this website, a google search will show you what the Envy looks like)

Examples:

> **[YoYoFactory](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/yoyofactory)**
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> YoYoFactory was born in 2004 with a focus on functional technology to improve the playing experience. This has been a goal of the company which relies on the experience gathered from over 30 years of demonstrating yoyos around the planet. The end...

> **[Duncan](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/Duncan)**
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> Duncan is the most widely recognized yo-yo name in the entire world. Since 1929, the name "Duncan" has been synonymous with "yo-yo" across the United States, and for good reason! Their yo-yos represent the top-of-the-line for beginners or...

V Shape:

How to Identify: Straight, angular body descending pointing towards the bearing.

Examples:

> **[YoYoJam](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/yoyojam)**
>
> YoYoJam made some of the best beginner to advanced yo-yos on the market, all exclusively manufactured right here in the USA!  With over dozens of signature series models produced, their yo-yos are designed for the player by the...

[http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/576/C3YoYoDesign-Berserker](http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/576/C3YoYoDesign-Berserker)

Double V/V:

Goes by several different names

How to Identify: Straight, angular body with rims that are at a more shallow angle. Many V and Double V shaped yoyos could really fit into either category.

Examples:  
[http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/754/YYF-ShaqlerStar---Champions-Collection](http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/754/YYF-ShaqlerStar---Champions-Collection)

> **[One Drop Yo-Yos](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/one-drop-yoyos)**
>
> We design and build the world's finest yo-yos in our workshop in Eugene, Oregon, USA.That's right. In a world full of outsourcing, we are 100% committed our maker roots. It is no doubt the more challenging way to go and for sure a path less traveled....

Classic/organic Shape:

How to Idenfify: (generally) High walled with rims that curve out. Much more common in the past.

Examples:  
[http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/918/YYF-Ricochet](http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/918/YYF-Ricochet)

> **[Duncan](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/duncan)**
>
> Duncan is the most widely recognized yo-yo name in the entire world. Since 1929, the name "Duncan" has been synonymous with "yo-yo" across the United States, and for good reason! Their yo-yos represent the top-of-the-line for beginners or...

Double Rim:

How to Identify: has a second lip under rim in inner cup

Examples:  
[http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/870/CLYW-CLIFF](http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/870/CLYW-CLIFF)

> **[C3yoyodesign](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/c3yoyodesign)**
>
> C3yoyodesign has made it their mission to deliver some of the highest quality and built for performance yo-yos you can get your hands on. Being based in Hong Kong with an extremely competitive yo-yo culture they know what it takes to empower a...

Bell Shape:

How to Identify: each half looks like a bell.

Examples:

> **[One Drop Yo-Yos](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/one-drop-yoyos)**
>
> We design and build the world's finest yo-yos in our workshop in Eugene, Oregon, USA.That's right. In a world full of outsourcing, we are 100% committed our maker roots. It is no doubt the more challenging way to go and for sure a path less traveled....

> **[Turning Point](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/turning-point)**
>
> 2009 World Champion Kentaro Kimura is one of the most talented names in yo-yoing. His company, Turning Point, is responsible for innovating the "K-Pad" response which is now the industry standard. His first yo-yo, the Leviathan, quickly became a...

High Walled:

How to Identify: The “wall” of the bearing area extends out a far distance before curving out into the rims.

Examples:

> **[YYJ Dark Magic II](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/yyj-dark-magic-ii-yoyo)**
>
> We feel the Dark Magic is hands down one of the best intermediate to advanced yo-yos on the market. With its wide metal aluminum rings, extra weight, and extra width it is the perfect yo-yo for learning string tricks that require a stable and long...

> **[YoYoJam](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/YoYoJam)**
>
> YoYoJam made some of the best beginner to advanced yo-yos on the market, all exclusively manufactured right here in the USA!  With over dozens of signature series models produced, their yo-yos are designed for the player by the...

Low Walled:

How to Identify: Opposite of high wall. The “wall” of the bearing area does not extend a far distance before curving out into the rims.

Examples:

> **[sOMEThING](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/something)**
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> sOMEThING is Japan's latest yo-yo brand presented by the world famous Japanese yo-yo store YoYoAddict, owned and operated by world champion player Hiroyuki Suzuki!

> **[C3yoyodesign](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/c3yoyodesign)**
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> C3yoyodesign has made it their mission to deliver some of the highest quality and built for performance yo-yos you can get your hands on. Being based in Hong Kong with an extremely competitive yo-yo culture they know what it takes to empower a...

I don’t think I’m missing any shapes here.

Just remember, not every yoyo fits into one of these categories, some yoyos fit into multiple categories, and some of these shapes have varying definitions.

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2013, 3:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-shape-is-what/62100/3 "2013-12-14T03:00:27Z")

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See, I’ve always had the misconception of it as well. The (what I’ve considered) H-shapes I have I would say are very much between a V-shape and a Double rim shape. a considerate step down which gives a different feel to it. Also, a Double-V seems to match the bill of what I thought a more H-shape was, but simply more curved so it did not resemble an actual Double-V shape.

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2013, 3:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-shape-is-what/62100/4 "2013-12-14T03:48:58Z")

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Double Rim:

How to Identify: has a second lip under rim in inner cup

Examples:  
[http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/870/CLYW-CLIFF](http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/870/CLYW-CLIFF)

> **[C3yoyodesign](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/c3yoyodesign)**
>
> C3yoyodesign has made it their mission to deliver some of the highest quality and built for performance yo-yos you can get your hands on. Being based in Hong Kong with an extremely competitive yo-yo culture they know what it takes to empower a...

I would consider the cliff a H shape with a double wall.

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2013, 4:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-shape-is-what/62100/5 "2013-12-14T04:33:12Z")

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This dude called me out of FB cause supposedly I was blind not see which was the H shape for the Benchmarks series…

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2013, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-shape-is-what/62100/6 "2013-12-14T12:18:37Z")

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You might be interested in the shape game.&nbsp; It helped me out some.&nbsp; Not everyone agrees on some of them, but hey…that’s how it goes.

> **[The Shape Game](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/forums/index.php/topic,63295.msg675490.html)**
>
> I won’t hesitate to tell you what I know. But, I will readily admit what I don’t know. So, I need you guys to help me out. I read reviews and descriptions describing yo-yo shapes as “H,” “V,” Bell Shaped or Organic/Classic. Usually, I see them...
