# What other yoyo's play like the 1st Run CLYW Avalanche? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [October 28, 2020, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-other-yoyos-play-like-the-1st-run-clyw-avalanche/329019 "2020-10-28T19:27:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![UncleJemaya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/unclejemaya/32/106659_2.png) [@UncleJemaya](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/UncleJemaya)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-other-yoyos-play-like-the-1st-run-clyw-avalanche/329019/1 "2020-10-28T19:27:56Z")
Hey guys, I just got back into the hobby again! My all time favorite throw has always been the 1st Run of CLYW Avalanches. I have owned and tried many yoyos of different brands and to this day it’s still my favorite. So I am just curious on what yoyos there are now that plays just like it? I appreciate the recommendations!! ---
**Author:** ![LinksLegionaire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/linkslegionaire/32/886_2.png) [@LinksLegionaire](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LinksLegionaire)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-other-yoyos-play-like-the-1st-run-clyw-avalanche/329019/2 "2020-10-28T21:06:38Z")
It’s a favorite of mine as well. Unfortunately I haven’t found any other yoyos that feel the same. Fortunately, I’ve found several more Avalanches for sale which I’ve bought. ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-other-yoyos-play-like-the-1st-run-clyw-avalanche/329019/3 "2020-10-28T21:11:37Z")
I think the second run Avalanche would play a lot like it… ---
**Author:** ![griffin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/griffin/32/97968_2.png) [@griffin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/griffin)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-other-yoyos-play-like-the-1st-run-clyw-avalanche/329019/4 "2020-10-28T21:25:44Z")
You might think so, but the design was actually changed between runs after the CAD file was lost. Similar design still, but definitely a different style of play ---
**Author:** ![d34dj3d](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/d34dj3d/32/105169_2.png) [@d34dj3d](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/d34dj3d)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-other-yoyos-play-like-the-1st-run-clyw-avalanche/329019/5 "2020-10-28T21:32:20Z")
Great, now I have to compare my 3 avalanche and see if I notice a difference. Thanks a lot. Just kidding, I never knew this, cool piece of yoyo trivia. But seriously, is there an easy way to tell the difference? ---
**Author:** ![lumanasty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/lumanasty/32/80550_2.png) [@lumanasty](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/lumanasty)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-other-yoyos-play-like-the-1st-run-clyw-avalanche/329019/6 "2020-10-28T21:37:34Z")
My og avalanche stays in my rotation fairly often because I can’t ever seem to find anything that has that same feel. That said I see a fair amount of them popping up if you have a little time to wait it out! ---
**Author:** ![UncleJemaya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/unclejemaya/32/106659_2.png) [@UncleJemaya](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/UncleJemaya)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-other-yoyos-play-like-the-1st-run-clyw-avalanche/329019/7 "2020-10-28T22:53:29Z")
Personally, the first runs ever felt the most solid feel while playing if that makes any sense haha ---
**Author:** ![UncleJemaya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/unclejemaya/32/106659_2.png) [@UncleJemaya](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/UncleJemaya)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-other-yoyos-play-like-the-1st-run-clyw-avalanche/329019/8 "2020-10-28T22:54:56Z")
Yeah, that’s my plan too haha. I’ve had the original KK one and I miss it to this day 😭 ---
**Author:** ![LinksLegionaire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/linkslegionaire/32/886_2.png) [@LinksLegionaire](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LinksLegionaire)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-other-yoyos-play-like-the-1st-run-clyw-avalanche/329019/9 "2020-10-29T13:37:16Z")
I feel this way as well. My favorites are my BBB which doesn’t have the rim groove between the outer rim and catch zone (I originally thought this was a pre-pro but now I’m not so sure; as far as I know, there’s only 4 that don’t have the rim groove) and my Jack Rabbit (which I believe is a 3rd run) because it plays a bit lighter. I wonder if there’s a noticeable weight difference between the four I own… ---
**Author:** ![JavaDogs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/javadogs/32/104121_2.png) [@JavaDogs](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JavaDogs)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-other-yoyos-play-like-the-1st-run-clyw-avalanche/329019/10 "2020-10-29T18:38:53Z")
How can you tell if its a first run, is it based on the box art or something else? ---
**Author:** ![LinksLegionaire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/linkslegionaire/32/886_2.png) [@LinksLegionaire](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LinksLegionaire)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-other-yoyos-play-like-the-1st-run-clyw-avalanche/329019/11 "2020-10-29T19:35:23Z")
Colorway is the main indicator. Northern Lights, Krisztian Kalusza, and Aurora Borealis were 1st runs. Not sure what other colors were part of that run. ---
**Author:** ![UncleJemaya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/unclejemaya/32/106659_2.png) [@UncleJemaya](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/UncleJemaya)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-other-yoyos-play-like-the-1st-run-clyw-avalanche/329019/12 "2020-10-29T20:42:38Z")
These were the first run of avalanches ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/0/9/c/09c4ef60e26dec0c77084bd20c6b48627a19e04c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Lukoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/lukoyo/32/24789_2.png) [@Lukoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lukoyo)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-other-yoyos-play-like-the-1st-run-clyw-avalanche/329019/13 "2020-10-29T21:15:52Z")
So is this a first run Avalanche? ![IMG_20201029_211401](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/a/f/3/af3c29f0dcfa85ee9d18def90c20b48387e08b46.jpeg) What’s the colour-way called? ---
**Author:** ![d34dj3d](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/d34dj3d/32/105169_2.png) [@d34dj3d](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/d34dj3d)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-other-yoyos-play-like-the-1st-run-clyw-avalanche/329019/14 "2020-10-29T21:24:25Z")
This just happens to be my favorite avalanche! ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/2/b/6/2b6df19e727543ab83943298b1117c652adbb0e3.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![beezy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/beezy/32/161690_2.png) [@beezy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/beezy)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 12:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-other-yoyos-play-like-the-1st-run-clyw-avalanche/329019/15 "2020-10-30T00:48:04Z")
Yes. I had one. I think it was just called the Kristian Kaluza Avalanche. ---
**Author:** ![UncleJemaya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/unclejemaya/32/106659_2.png) [@UncleJemaya](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/UncleJemaya)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 2:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-other-yoyos-play-like-the-1st-run-clyw-avalanche/329019/16 "2020-10-30T02:28:33Z")
It could be but the second run had a Kristian Kaluza colorway as well ---
**Author:** ![LinksLegionaire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/linkslegionaire/32/886_2.png) [@LinksLegionaire](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LinksLegionaire)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-other-yoyos-play-like-the-1st-run-clyw-avalanche/329019/17 "2020-10-30T13:06:15Z")
Ahh I forgot about the speckles. Nice find! Didn’t know Dogfish Creek was a 1st run! ---
**Author:** ![LinksLegionaire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/linkslegionaire/32/886_2.png) [@LinksLegionaire](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LinksLegionaire)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-other-yoyos-play-like-the-1st-run-clyw-avalanche/329019/18 "2020-10-30T13:11:12Z")
Hastily weighed my four this morning. Didn’t bother to take the strings off, though I don’t believe they’re all the exact same length; but they are all the same brand. The numbers do make sense. The BBB and JR definitely feel lighter. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/6/c/3/6c3a1df13b68cd2538ad2e2ea2cab3e834b34b11.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Rosenberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rosenberg/32/20465_2.png) [@Rosenberg](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Rosenberg)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-other-yoyos-play-like-the-1st-run-clyw-avalanche/329019/19 "2020-10-31T16:03:18Z")
Yeah weight is the easiest way to tell first run, if you have a scale. Much easier than trying to dig up colorway archives ---
**Author:** ![FourCorner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fourcorner/32/122296_2.png) [@FourCorner](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/FourCorner)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-other-yoyos-play-like-the-1st-run-clyw-avalanche/329019/20 "2022-06-16T15:10:45Z")
Perhaps I am going crazy, but the JT Shaqshine FG plays a lot like the first run Avalanche with some added power and stability from the stainless steel rings. There are a lot of similarities in the shape: ![P1070066](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/7/0/6/70626ac1aa1f001a3b086c95253338a9b6c6dcdf.jpeg) ![P1070065](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/1/9/c/19ce43be80ff0fde6e319326dacda1e40d56cadf.jpeg) I would be interested to know if anyone agrees with the comparison. [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-other-yoyos-play-like-the-1st-run-clyw-avalanche/329019.md?page=2)