# What makes a yoyo fast? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [September 30, 2013, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-makes-a-yoyo-fast/59729 "2013-09-30T16:11:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 1:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-makes-a-yoyo-fast/59729/22 "2013-10-01T01:28:02Z")
I don’t have a backlog of physics texts to consult. But it seems obvious to me that the overall mass is what matters; rim-weighting vs. center-weighting factors in for other things, as Philip says, “worth designing for”. I very much also believe that a lot of it is perception and attitude. You pick up an allegedly “fast” yoyo and say, “Now I’mma rip it!” and away you go… rippin’ it. You take your “slow comfort throw” and you are going to play slow and comfortable. And even if you decide to try to debunk the power of perception and “rip it” with your “slow comfort throw” I am willing to bet a dozen doughnuts (I know, a heavy wager) that you’ll walk out saying “Yeah, I was NOT feelin’ that for speed,” which wouldn’t prove anything at all other than it might still be about perception. :wink: Or, on a good day, you might go, “Yeah… I think I was just as fast on that yoyo after all…” So I’m not referring to perceived speed but actual speed… it’s just that certain approaches, attitudes, and preconceptions will determine whether you the player are imparting actual speed to the yoyo or not. It really is about the player at the end of the day. As FiveIronBrian says, slightly affected by base weight. I think it’s worth noting that stability factors in to a certain extent, but not in terms of pure physics: you will take more chances with speedy play on a yoyo that you’re not likely to knock off kilter with a bit of sloppy play. Amirite? But that’s still not the pure physics of the rigid mass in motion. It’s knowing that you’re throwing a yoyo that can handle more breakneck speeds without falling apart. ---
**Author:** ![james](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/james/32/149_2.png) [@james](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/james)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 3:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-makes-a-yoyo-fast/59729/23 "2013-10-01T03:58:37Z")
> [@yoyobrandon](#): > > Sorry all. I realized that I should have specified that I was talking about the design aspect of the yoyo. I know that the player is the biggest factor in speed. I was wondering why because in the description of the Speedaholic, it was mentioned that it was a fast yoyo. Thanks and sorry. Lol, the Speedaholic isn’t even fast. Great yoyo though, especially for the price. Shape is usually the major factor in the speed of a yoyo; that and weight. Narrow angular yoyos that are relatively light are usually speedy; ex: The V and Sleipnir. It also usually helps if a yoyo has more centerweight. Just thought I’d add; be yourself and DON’T try to go fast. When yoyoers do, it tends to look REALLY sloppy and TERRIBLE (specifically for most American yoyoers). I’m sure most fast “Japanese tech” style yoyoers still don’t “try” to go fast, it just happens due to the flow and smoothness in the style of their tricks. ---
**Author:** ![Elephark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/elephark/32/496_2.png) [@Elephark](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Elephark)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-makes-a-yoyo-fast/59729/24 "2013-10-01T14:40:54Z")
ITT physics slash fiction. ---
**Author:** ![J-Spinn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/j-spinn/32/108_2.png) [@J-Spinn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/J-Spinn)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-makes-a-yoyo-fast/59729/25 "2013-10-01T19:47:06Z")
I think its funny how the name of a yoyo makes people assume that’s what the yoyo does. ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-makes-a-yoyo-fast/59729/26 "2013-10-01T19:48:13Z")
> [@J-Spinn](#): > > I think its funny how the name of a yoyo makes people assume that’s what the yoyo does. I never buy the Widowmaker colourway. ---
**Author:** ![Erik\_kerber](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/erik_kerber/32/7939_2.png) [@Erik\_kerber](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Erik_kerber)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-makes-a-yoyo-fast/59729/27 "2013-10-01T20:05:35Z")
if its lighter weight it will play faster if its heavy it will play smoother if its narrow it will play faster if its wide it will play smoother Thats my opinion hope it helps ---
**Author:** ![killtronicus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/killtronicus/32/1254_2.png) [@killtronicus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/killtronicus)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-makes-a-yoyo-fast/59729/28 "2013-10-01T20:07:48Z")
As a physics major I can say for certain that if a yoyo has flames or a lightning bolt on it, it goes faster. ---
**Author:** ![Casey888](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Casey888](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Casey888)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-makes-a-yoyo-fast/59729/29 "2013-10-01T20:18:29Z")
> [@killtronicus](#): > > As a physics major I can say for certain that if a yoyo has flames or a lightning bolt on it, it goes faster. True dat ---
**Author:** ![yoyobrandon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyobrandon/32/1407_2.png) [@yoyobrandon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyobrandon)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-makes-a-yoyo-fast/59729/30 "2013-10-01T20:29:11Z")
> [@Jamesofyoyo](#): > > Lol, the Speedaholic isn’t even fast. Great yoyo though, especially for the price. Shape is usually the major factor in the speed of a yoyo; that and weight. Narrow angular yoyos that are relatively light are usually speedy; ex: The V and Sleipnir. It also usually helps if a yoyo has more centerweight. > > Just thought I’d add; be yourself and DON’T try to go fast. When yoyoers do, it tends to look REALLY sloppy and TERRIBLE (specifically for most American yoyoers). I’m sure most fast “Japanese tech” style yoyoers still don’t “try” to go fast, it just happens due to the flow and smoothness in the style of their tricks. > [@J-Spinn](#): > > I think its funny how the name of a yoyo makes people assume that’s what the yoyo does. Here is the description of the speedaholic from this link: > **[Speedaholic](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/speedaholic-responsive-yoyo-by-c3yoyodesign)** > > Designed with beginners in mind, the Speedaholic by C3 is crafted from top-quality plastic, ensuring a seamless progression from basic moves to more intricate tricks. From the initial throw to the satisfying catch, the Speedaholic encourages you to... C3 YoYo Design is about to flip your entire world upside down and completely change everything you think you know about plastic yo-yos. The newest addition to the C3 line is the Speedaholic! It one of the most mind-blowingly awesome plastic yo-yos we have seen in a long time, and the best part? You can probably buy this amazing yo-yo with the spare change you find under the couch! The Speedaholic was designed with a rounded organic V-shape for ideal comfort in hand and the flawlessly molded, translucent, plastic catches the light beautifully when in motion. It has a nice wide stance for extra stability and the thick plastic rim walls add just enough weight to keep the Speedaholic flowing through every trick. And, if you didn’t guess it from the name, this yo-yo is fast! The Speedaholic is the first inexpensive plastic yo-yo to rival the performance of most full metal yo-yos on the market. So if you’re looking for an unbeatable yo-yo that wont break your bank this is the one for you. Once you throw the Speedaholic you’ll be hooked! ---
**Author:** ![Nathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nathan/32/191605_2.png) [@Nathan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nathan)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-makes-a-yoyo-fast/59729/31 "2013-10-01T21:58:51Z")
> [@FiveIronBrian](#): > > Not for speed. Zipping the yo-yo around pinwheels and between string hits. Unless you mean the initial throw alone. I believe you are neglecting that a rotating yo-yo has its own angular momentum vector. What you are saying is true if you are flailing a dead yo-yo around. My physics is a little (very) rusty so I may be off though. ---
**Author:** ![james](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/james/32/149_2.png) [@james](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/james)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-makes-a-yoyo-fast/59729/32 "2013-10-01T22:46:11Z")
> [@yoyobrandon](#): > > Here is the description of the speedaholic from this link: > [Speedaholic Yo-Yo by C3yoyodesign – YoYoExpert](http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/1075/C3YoYoDesign-Speedaholic) > > C3 YoYo Design is about to flip your entire world upside down and completely change everything you think you know about plastic yo-yos. > > The newest addition to the C3 line is the Speedaholic! It one of the most mind-blowingly awesome plastic yo-yos we have seen in a long time, and the best part? You can probably buy this amazing yo-yo with the spare change you find under the couch! > > The Speedaholic was designed with a rounded organic V-shape for ideal comfort in hand and the flawlessly molded, translucent, plastic catches the light beautifully when in motion. It has a nice wide stance for extra stability and the thick plastic rim walls add just enough weight to keep the Speedaholic flowing through every trick. And, if you didn’t guess it from the name, this yo-yo is fast! The Speedaholic is the first inexpensive plastic yo-yo to rival the performance of most full metal yo-yos on the market. > > So if you’re looking for an unbeatable yo-yo that wont break your bank this is the one for you. Once you throw the Speedaholic you’ll be hooked! Technically this is a matter of opinion, so we could debate about this all day. I however claim that this yoyo is not fast. If it was ‘fast’, I probably wouldn’t like it because I tend to dislike plastic yoyos that don’t feel ‘solid’. [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-makes-a-yoyo-fast/59729.md?page=1)