# What is your most regretful yoyo purchase? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [April 5, 2013, 6:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-your-most-regretful-yoyo-purchase/51831 "2013-04-05T06:23:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Juki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/juki/32/1312_2.png) [@Juki](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Juki)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 11:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-your-most-regretful-yoyo-purchase/51831/121 "2013-04-07T23:34:41Z")
YYF Whip. Im not going to complain tho cause the only reason i bought it was because it came with a center trac bearing which was cheaper than if you were to buy the bearing separately by itself. ---
**Author:** ![PlasticWhip](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/plasticwhip/32/896_2.png) [@PlasticWhip](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PlasticWhip)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2013, 12:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-your-most-regretful-yoyo-purchase/51831/122 "2013-04-08T00:00:31Z")
> [@Tx3x1](#): > > The jk it unscrewed while i was yoyoing and rolled of into some crowd and im sure some one took it. So now im stuck with half a jk. …and you’re mad because you didn’t tighten it fully? ---
**Author:** ![JonQ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3da27b/32.png) [@JonQ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JonQ)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2013, 12:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-your-most-regretful-yoyo-purchase/51831/123 "2013-04-08T00:46:46Z")
> [@Juki](#): > > YYF Whip. Im not going to complain tho cause the only reason i bought it was because it came with a center trac bearing which was cheaper than if you were to buy the bearing separately by itself. … so why regret it? ---
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2013, 1:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-your-most-regretful-yoyo-purchase/51831/124 "2013-04-08T01:37:20Z")
> [@Juki](#): > > YYF Whip. Im not going to complain tho cause the only reason i bought it was because it came with a center trac bearing which was cheaper than if you were to buy the bearing separately by itself. lol discount on the bearing and a free yoyo xD ---
**Author:** ![S3V3RI7Y](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@S3V3RI7Y](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/S3V3RI7Y)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2013, 2:36am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-your-most-regretful-yoyo-purchase/51831/125 "2013-04-08T02:36:56Z")
Now its a OD ten ball Ball-bearing and the H5xChief. \<— the bearing seat is WAY too tight! ---
**Author:** ![dynikus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dynikus/32/812_2.png) [@dynikus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dynikus)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2013, 3:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-your-most-regretful-yoyo-purchase/51831/126 "2013-04-08T03:28:50Z")
a tighter bearing seat means less vibe. As long as you can still put the bearing in and remove it with tools without damaging the bearing, I don’t see a problem. ---
**Author:** ![SkyHighYo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/skyhighyo/32/234_2.png) [@SkyHighYo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SkyHighYo)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2013, 3:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-your-most-regretful-yoyo-purchase/51831/127 "2013-04-08T03:39:20Z")
> [@Totalartist](#): > > I have never fully regretted a yo-yo purchase. While there might have been aspects or features that could be better, I would not call it entirely a “regret.” It is not my style to bash some company or product on a public forum. I share my opinions to that extent wih people who I know personally, in private, who actually care, and who can put my criticisms in the context of knowing my preferences. > > Having said that, I try to research things before I buy, and consider the purpose, whether it is to play the yo-yo, or just a collector. Worst case scenario, I have no problem selling things that I have no use for, so even if I regretted buying, I never regret trying it. Even if I sell something, I once had the benefit of test driving it. > > I have never felt like I “lost” money on something. Being an educated buyer will minimize that feeling. I was going to reply… but it would have been exactly like this. And to be honest, I haven’t really played a yoyo I don’t like… if I had to pick one I liked the least, it would be the Code 2. I even liked the Peter Fish Luminator with it’s crappy plastic bearing seat, foam pads, and extremely light body. ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2013, 3:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-your-most-regretful-yoyo-purchase/51831/128 "2013-04-08T03:45:15Z")
> [@dynikus](#): > > a tighter bearing seat means less vibe. As long as you can still put the bearing in and remove it with tools without damaging the bearing, I don’t see a problem. the bearing could break/crack,… ---
**Author:** ![SR1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sr1/32/104603_2.png) [@SR1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SR1)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2013, 3:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-your-most-regretful-yoyo-purchase/51831/129 "2013-04-08T03:48:06Z")
> [@iYoyo58](#): > > > [@dynikus](#): > > > > a tighter bearing seat means less vibe. As long as you can still put the bearing in and remove it with tools without damaging the bearing, I don’t see a problem. > > the bearing could break/crack,… If you’re bearing actually breaks/cracks you have to be retarded. ---
**Author:** ![SkyHighYo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/skyhighyo/32/234_2.png) [@SkyHighYo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SkyHighYo)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2013, 3:56am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-your-most-regretful-yoyo-purchase/51831/130 "2013-04-08T03:56:03Z")
> [@SR1](#): > > > [@iYoyo58](#): > > > > > [@dynikus](#): > > > > > > a tighter bearing seat means less vibe. As long as you can still put the bearing in and remove it with tools without damaging the bearing, I don’t see a problem. > > > > the bearing could break/crack,… > > If you’re bearing actually breaks/cracks you have to be retarded. yeah… some people actually hit their bearings with hammers to demagnetize them… I might be confusing bearings with something else… ehh too tired to figure it out ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2013, 4:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-your-most-regretful-yoyo-purchase/51831/131 "2013-04-08T04:00:02Z")
> [@SR1](#): > > > [@iYoyo58](#): > > > > > [@dynikus](#): > > > > > > a tighter bearing seat means less vibe. As long as you can still put the bearing in and remove it with tools without damaging the bearing, I don’t see a problem. > > > > the bearing could break/crack,… > > If you’re bearing actually breaks/cracks you have to be retarded. I have a friend that has had 4 bearings break on him,… ---
**Author:** ![Zer0F3AR](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zer0f3ar/32/348572_2.png) [@Zer0F3AR](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zer0F3AR)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2013, 4:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-your-most-regretful-yoyo-purchase/51831/132 "2013-04-08T04:06:37Z")
> [@iYoyo58](#): > > > [@SR1](#): > > > > > [@iYoyo58](#): > > > > > > > [@dynikus](#): > > > > > > > > a tighter bearing seat means less vibe. As long as you can still put the bearing in and remove it with tools without damaging the bearing, I don’t see a problem. > > > > > > the bearing could break/crack,… > > > > If you’re bearing actually breaks/cracks you have to be retarded. > > I have a friend that has had 4 bearings break on him,… Bearings don’t “crack” last time I checked steel doesn’t “crack” under pressure. I fail to see how a tight bearing seat can “crack” a bearing. ---
**Author:** ![skatalite](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/skatalite/32/1329_2.png) [@skatalite](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skatalite)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2013, 5:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-your-most-regretful-yoyo-purchase/51831/133 "2013-04-08T05:11:07Z")
> [@SR1](#): > > > [@iYoyo58](#): > > > > > [@dynikus](#): > > > > > > a tighter bearing seat means less vibe. As long as you can still put the bearing in and remove it with tools without damaging the bearing, I don’t see a problem. > > > > the bearing could break/crack,… > > If you’re bearing actually breaks/cracks you have to be retarded. You like to use this word a lot, don’t you? :-\ ---
**Author:** ![dingo54](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8baadc/32.png) [@dingo54](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dingo54)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2013, 5:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-your-most-regretful-yoyo-purchase/51831/134 "2013-04-08T05:15:31Z")
> [@skatalite](#): > > > [@SR1](#): > > > > > [@iYoyo58](#): > > > > > > > [@dynikus](#): > > > > > > > > a tighter bearing seat means less vibe. As long as you can still put the bearing in and remove it with tools without damaging the bearing, I don’t see a problem. > > > > > > the bearing could break/crack,… > > > > If you’re bearing actually breaks/cracks you have to be retarded. > > You like to use this word a lot, don’t you? :-\ OH my, don’t start a flame war. Just remember its his account and he can say what he wants if it doesn’t break the rules. ALso I know you want to act all politically correct, but when he says that do you really hurt inside? Even if it does, you are not in pre school, accept some people won’t make you happy, you will have a better life. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Yoinator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/the_yoinator/32/1140_2.png) [@The\_Yoinator](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/The_Yoinator)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2013, 5:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-your-most-regretful-yoyo-purchase/51831/135 "2013-04-08T05:27:14Z")
I agree with Greg, YYF is awesome. (Get a superstar) ---
**Author:** ![skatalite](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/skatalite/32/1329_2.png) [@skatalite](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skatalite)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2013, 6:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-your-most-regretful-yoyo-purchase/51831/136 "2013-04-08T06:14:58Z")
> [@dingo54](#): > > > [@skatalite](#): > > > > > [@SR1](#): > > > > > > > [@iYoyo58](#): > > > > > > > > > [@dynikus](#): > > > > > > > > > > a tighter bearing seat means less vibe. As long as you can still put the bearing in and remove it with tools without damaging the bearing, I don’t see a problem. > > > > > > > > the bearing could break/crack,… > > > > > > If you’re bearing actually breaks/cracks you have to be retarded. > > > > You like to use this word a lot, don’t you? :-\ > > OH my, don’t start a flame war. Just remember its his account and he can say what he wants if it doesn’t break the rules. ALso I know you want to act all politically correct, but when he says that do you really hurt inside? Even if it does, you are not in pre school, accept some people won’t make you happy, you will have a better life. I’m not trying to start a flame war, I’m just asking him a question. It’s not even about being politically correct. It’s about being responsible with words. As someone who has had the pleasure of spending time with mentally handicapped students, and also students with autism, I have seen how the word can hurt someone. Also, he is breaking the rules. Though the site moderators might not consider the word vulgar (rule No. 5), I imagine him calling another member of name (or implying such) breaks the rules of keeping things civil/friendly. Along with not trying to start a flame war, I’m also not trying to play moderator. I was hoping my reply would just encourage him to think about his use of the word. ---
**Author:** ![dynikus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dynikus/32/812_2.png) [@dynikus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dynikus)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2013, 6:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-your-most-regretful-yoyo-purchase/51831/137 "2013-04-08T06:40:42Z")
> [@iYoyo58](#): > > > [@dynikus](#): > > > > a tighter bearing seat means less vibe. As long as you can still put the bearing in and remove it with tools without damaging the bearing, I don’t see a problem. > > the bearing could break/crack,… that’s not physically possible. I’m sorry, but it’s just not… I had a bearing that literally couldn’t be remove from a yuuksta about a year ago. The store I bought it from even tried cutting open the outer race for better access, but the inner race just wouldn’t budge. Even with the seat that tight, the bearing didn’t crack or break. It wasn’t effected at all, actually, and the yoyo had next to no vibe. The only reason I returned the yoyo is because I wanted to clean the bearing but couldn’t, and the tight seat made it require herculean strength just to twist it together or apart. And steel doesn’t crack or break under pressure. It bends. ---
**Author:** ![frodoslair](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/frodoslair/32/833_2.png) [@frodoslair](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/frodoslair)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2013, 6:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-your-most-regretful-yoyo-purchase/51831/138 "2013-04-08T06:55:05Z")
In my 8+ years of being involved in the “modern” yoyo scene - there are only four yoyos that I have been disappointed with / regretted purchasing. Not all of these are bad yoyos, just items I couldn’t really connect with: 1. Original Duncan Metal Zero This thing was hyped like crazy, it was going to be the first precision engineered metal yoyo at a price I could afford. I saved up, I believed the hype, and the yoyo just sucked. The metal was very soft and cheap, if it touched the ground while spinning you would end up with a huge gash in the rims. If you squeezed it too hard you could bend the yoyo out of shape. Every second person who bought one managed to strip the axle threads… I love Duncan, I love their products, their heritage, but this was one yoyo that should not have been released - the quality just wasn’t there. 2. Hspin G&E3 Hspin had a thing for producing groundbreaking designs… They took pride in producing “Swiss made” yoyos and claim to be “No.1 European High End Yoyo Company”. After missing out on the legendary G&E2, I was very pleased when Hspin announced the upcoming release of the G&E3. Again, I saved up, I hustled for this yoyo that I just had to have. Except that it all went wrong… Hspin’s Swiss engineering certainly let them down with this release and how they missed the whole vibe issue before packaging and shipping them worldwide, I don’t know. From a company with their prestige, this just should never have happened. Credit to them though - they went very far out of their way to ensure that everyone who bought one and was disappointed received a refund. I did get my money back, but I never got the high-end Swiss yoyo I dreamed of… 3. No Jive 3-in-1 The talk around town was that this was the very best fixed axle yoyo you could get. I craved one for years. I saw what guys like Ed Haponik were doing with them. I HAD to have one. I saved up, I looked around and eventually found an outlet that had one (just one) left in stock. I bought it and waited anxiously for my parcel to arrive. I know wood is fickle, and as much as I tried, I just couldn’t enjoy playing this yoyo. Maybe I got a “bad” one… Tried tuning it, but whatever I did it wobbled. It wasn’t great as a looper, and inverted to the butterfly shape, the response was very erratic and I just couldn’t get it to play how I wanted it to. I am sure they are fantastic yoyos, I just couldn’t seem to connect to it. I found it easier to do fixed axle string tricks on an imperial shaped Russell looper. 4. SPYY Flying V I love playing responsive, and when SPYY announced that they were releasing an “old skool” yoyo machined to modern standards, I just couldn’t resist and snapped one up. The yoyo is very well made, dead smooth, can’t flaw it there, but I just couldn’t connect to it, no matter how hard I tried. To get it consistently tug responsive, it seemed like I had to add so much thick lube that I might as well just play a fixed axle. In the end, I put it in storage and if I wanted to play responsive, I’d just whip out something like an old Duncan Freehand. ---
**Author:** ![FNG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fng/32/1019_2.png) [@FNG](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/FNG)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2013, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-your-most-regretful-yoyo-purchase/51831/139 "2013-04-08T11:36:19Z")
Perfect call on the original metal FHZ and G&E3. Both were awful. ---
**Author:** ![CaliBuddha](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/calibuddha/32/156_2.png) [@CaliBuddha](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/CaliBuddha)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2013, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-your-most-regretful-yoyo-purchase/51831/140 "2013-04-08T11:38:13Z")
> [@SaltySalvador](#): > > > [@awl](#): > > > > YYF Velocity. Absolute Garbage. > > To be completely honest. This is the truth. I have both the old and the new versions. Both belong in the trash. I liked both versions. [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-your-most-regretful-yoyo-purchase/51831.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-your-most-regretful-yoyo-purchase/51831.md?page=8)