# What is yo-yo vibe and how do I test for it?

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> 📣 Unless you feel your yo-yo has a serious problem in play, **it’s unlikely you need to worry about vibe on any new, undamaged yoyo**. Most modern yo-yos are _exceptionally_ smooth because the quality of manufacturing is so high today, and vibe is nowhere near as common as it used to be 10 or 20 years ago!

### What is yo-yo vibe?

It’s when the two halves of the yo-yo are mismatched in

- weight distribution
- alignment

… resulting in vibration when the yo-yo is spinning.

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/7/0/c/70cf9004a22c5100c365dc97510fdfe99a8d5e9b.jpeg "Super Slow-Mo Yoyo Vibe Tests") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lybp9wAEeaA)

If each yo-yo half is aligned perfectly flat against each other, and the weight is evenly distributed in each half, no vibe should be present.

### What causes vibe?

- Damage is a big one. Slam your throw into the concrete enough and it may introduce vibe because the axle or bearing seat gets bent! Dings and damage on each half [don’t matter much](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-yo-yo-vibe-and-how-do-i-test-for-it/291714/6), except insofar as they are evidence that the axle and/or bearing seat are now damaged.

- Materials. Some materials cannot be machined with the precision of metal, especially wood, and to a lesser extent plastic, and are inherently going to have a bit more vibe. This is normal. Also note that bimetal or trimetal yoyos add more variables to the mix for metal yo-yos.

- Manufacturing variance. No matter how good the manufacturing is, there may be minute differences in the materials used, the machining, or rare contaminants. People and even machines sometimes make mistakes!

### Testing for vibe

1. Throw a hard sleeper
2. Place your fingernail [on the rim](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/loaded-yoyos-how-to-test-for-vibe/42094), or in the gap
3. Let the yo-yo stabilize for 2-3 seconds against your fingernail

If there is significant vibe you will feel it (and hear it) on your fingernail. I personally like to hold my fingernail in the gap so it smooths out any “fake vibe” from my crappy throws, like so:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/a/d/a/ada12aafbd23afe370f94b95ae0cc1efe50f7abd.jpeg)

with your fingernail held in the gap for a few seconds after a hard throw …

- On a really smooth yo-yo, you will feel no vibration at all – it’s **like an air hockey puck sliding across a perfectly smooth gap of air on an air hockey table**. Ahhhh 🤤

- On a vibey yo-yo, the metal in the gap will never fully stabilize against your fingernail – it’ll bounce and shake around and never rest smoothly against your nail, instead clanging against it constantly.

> 📣 A bit of vibe isn’t the end of the world! There’s no reason to obsess over vibe too much unless it’s actively interfering with your play – a little vibe is plenty playable, and “perfect” isn’t necessary.

### When should I be concerned about vibe?

- If the yo-yo is visibly wobbling on the string on every throw (in the same way).

- If the vibration is so severe that it interferes with normal play because the yo-yo is unstable on the string.

- “Pulse” or “Harmonic” vibration where the vibration is not constant, but happens in repeating patterns.

### “Fixing” vibe

> ⚠ It’s not usually possible to fix vibe since vibe depends how balanced and aligned the two halves of the yo-yo are. However, you _might_ be able to improve it if the axle or bearing is a factor.

In order of difficulty and cost:

- flip the axle around and thread it into the other side
- flip the bearing around
- clean and/or lubricate the bearing
- replace the axle with a different or new axle
- use teflon tape on the axle to make it thread tighter (if threads are becoming loose or stripped)
- replace the bearing with a different or new bearing

[reference video 1](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnzVyfauNTc), [reference video 2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiPhLUqT5KA), [reference video 3](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O91kMeaQJw8)

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