# WHAT IS THE MOST STABLE, FAST 1A YOYO
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**Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation
**Created:** [October 16, 2011, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-most-stable-fast-1a-yoyo/30748 "2011-10-16T07:47:00Z")
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### Author:  [@pattomatto](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/pattomatto)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2011, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-most-stable-fast-1a-yoyo/30748/1 "2011-10-16T07:47:00Z")
WHAT IS THE MOST STABLE, FAST 1A YOYO
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### Author:  [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2011, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-most-stable-fast-1a-yoyo/30748/2 "2011-10-16T08:02:56Z")
> [@pattomatto](#):
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> WHAT IS THE MOST STABLE, FAST 1A YOYO
One of them. For sure!
OK, now that that has been taken care of:
Seems the Hiroyuki Suzuki signature models by YYJ are what you’re after. He’s after a stable and fast playing yoyo to go with his style. I’ve got the Speeder 2 and now I want to pick up a few other of his designs, even thought I don’t play fast yet myself. But, there’s a recommendation. I’d wait for others to give their 2-cents worth and then weigh the information to start your search for a fast, stable yoyo.
Comparatively speaking, the One Drop Code 1 plays very stable but seems a bit on the slower side, which I like better. I’m new. Slow is good.
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### Author:  [@ExAzrael](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ExAzrael)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2011, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-most-stable-fast-1a-yoyo/30748/3 "2011-10-16T08:13:39Z")
Since you prefer to use all capitals, I’m going to say PHENOM.
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### Author:  [@DanishSauce](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DanishSauce)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2011, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-most-stable-fast-1a-yoyo/30748/4 "2011-10-16T09:41:49Z")
> [@exazrael](#):
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> Since you prefer to use all capitals, I’m going to say PHENOM.
Pretty much…
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### Author:  [@geckoguy05](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/geckoguy05)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2011, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-most-stable-fast-1a-yoyo/30748/5 "2011-10-16T12:27:36Z")
DEITZ
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### Author:  [@maxn93](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/maxn93)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2011, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-most-stable-fast-1a-yoyo/30748/6 "2011-10-16T12:48:11Z")
popstar for sure
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### Author:  [@nobody](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nobody)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2011, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-most-stable-fast-1a-yoyo/30748/7 "2011-10-16T13:37:01Z")
> [@maxn93](#):
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> popstar for sure
Not at all. More like a drunk rock on a string. lol
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### Author:  [@guitaryo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/guitaryo)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2011, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-most-stable-fast-1a-yoyo/30748/8 "2011-10-16T13:40:36Z")
Well, in general, stable and fast don’t really go together (in my experience). So for speed, I would probably say Werrd Pacquiao (I’ve never tried one but it’s 49 g’s). For stability, the most stable yoyo I’ve ever played is the avalanche.
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### Author:  [@YoYo\_Dark\_Magic\_2](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYo_Dark_Magic_2)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2011, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-most-stable-fast-1a-yoyo/30748/9 "2011-10-16T14:36:02Z")
YoYoJam PHENOM and PHENOMizm are both stable and VERY FAST. Pretty pricey though. . .
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### Author:  [@Big\_cat](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Big_cat)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2011, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-most-stable-fast-1a-yoyo/30748/10 "2011-10-16T14:37:54Z")
If you can find one, Turning Point Positron rules the land of fast and stable. 🙂
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### Author:  [@YoYo\_Dark\_Magic\_2](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYo_Dark_Magic_2)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2011, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-most-stable-fast-1a-yoyo/30748/11 "2011-10-16T14:47:48Z")
Does anyone know any cheap, but very fast yoyos?
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### Author:  [@hallelu-yo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hallelu-yo)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2011, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-most-stable-fast-1a-yoyo/30748/12 "2011-10-16T15:00:30Z")
YYJ speeder 2… by far
Watch the vid on this page, thats about as fast as it gets.
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### Author:  [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2011, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-most-stable-fast-1a-yoyo/30748/13 "2011-10-16T15:31:03Z")
> [@YoYo\_Dark\_Magic\_2](#):
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> Does anyone know any cheap, but very fast yoyos?
I don’t think there’s a yoyo named after my sister.
(Don’t ask…)
The Speeder 2 is on the more affordable side at around $45 and was designed for both fast AND stable. Of course, if you’ve got a bad throw in the first place, nothing is going to help you. I have one and I like it.
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### Author:  [@YoyoGeezer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoyoGeezer)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2011, 12:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-most-stable-fast-1a-yoyo/30748/14 "2011-10-18T00:04:15Z")
Speeder 2 is awesome. It is one of the best values in yo-yos out there. Stable, fast and cheap!
The new YYJ X-Con that is coming out is super-stable and fast. There is also the YYJ Karma.
For both stability and speed the Phenom is difficult to beat. The price, however, is a bit daunting. If you have the $$, the Phenom is in a class by itself.
I also LOVE the CLYW Gnarwhal. It is in the same league with the Avalanche for stability and is pretty fast on the string You can’t go wrong with this one.
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### Author:  [@WestAustralian](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/WestAustralian)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2011, 11:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-most-stable-fast-1a-yoyo/30748/15 "2011-10-18T23:37:11Z")
The YYJ Speeder 2 is a sure bet.
I have been a fan of the speeder since i got the 2006 Christmas edition of the Speeder.
Very nimble, very fast.
D
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### Author:  [@arcuda](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/arcuda)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2011, 11:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-most-stable-fast-1a-yoyo/30748/16 "2011-10-18T23:52:49Z")
> [@YoYo\_Dark\_Magic\_2](#):
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> Does anyone know any cheap, but very fast yoyos?
The Whip
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### Author:  [@I6ify](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/I6ify)
#### Post date: [October 20, 2011, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-most-stable-fast-1a-yoyo/30748/17 "2011-10-20T15:43:00Z")
I’d say, anything by YYR. Just go watch their players, definition of fast and stable. Out of all of them, I’d recommend the Sleipnir or Messiah. BUT, they are VERY pricey.
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### Author:  [@maxn93](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/maxn93)
#### Post date: [October 20, 2011, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-most-stable-fast-1a-yoyo/30748/18 "2011-10-20T20:37:07Z")
st. eel
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### Author:  [@Kristiawan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Kristiawan)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2011, 4:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-most-stable-fast-1a-yoyo/30748/19 "2011-10-21T04:28:44Z")
as stated before, speeder 2 is a great option for fast, stable and cheap yoyo.
Either that, or wait for the Chaser.
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### Author:  [@maxn93](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/maxn93)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2011, 4:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-most-stable-fast-1a-yoyo/30748/20 "2011-10-21T04:34:08Z")
proyo