# What is the Holy Grail yoyo?
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-holy-grail-yoyo/59093
**Category:** General Yo-Yo
**Created:** [September 12, 2013, 4:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-holy-grail-yoyo/59093 "2013-09-12T04:24:49Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@yoyodoc](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyodoc)
#### Post date: [September 12, 2013, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-holy-grail-yoyo/59093/41 "2013-09-12T22:54:10Z")
> [@dizzo](#):
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> The fh pl
I thought your Holy Grail was the Catch 22?
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### Author:  [@dizzo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dizzo)
#### Post date: [September 12, 2013, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-holy-grail-yoyo/59093/42 "2013-09-12T22:58:51Z")
> [@yoyodoc](#):
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> I thought your Holy Grail was the Catch 22?
oh it for sure is! But that’s just for me :wink: The fh pl was an April fools joke someone tried to play a few years ago. It was a plutonium fh. Always made me laugh
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### Author:  [@YoYoJordan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoJordan)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2013, 12:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-holy-grail-yoyo/59093/43 "2013-09-13T00:26:31Z")
The yyf fhz
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### Author:  [@yoyojohn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyojohn)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2013, 12:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-holy-grail-yoyo/59093/44 "2013-09-13T00:48:51Z")
Personally
[http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0\_mall/yo-yo/cabinet/hspin/hspin-ge4sp-s.jpg](http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0_mall/yo-yo/cabinet/hspin/hspin-ge4sp-s.jpg)
[http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0\_mall/yo-yo/cabinet/hspin/hspin-ge4sp-n.jpg](http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0_mall/yo-yo/cabinet/hspin/hspin-ge4sp-n.jpg)
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### Author:  [@Midlifeyoyoman](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Midlifeyoyoman)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2013, 1:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-holy-grail-yoyo/59093/45 "2013-09-13T01:06:28Z")
Lol at the Nostalgia. Beautiful for sure but not many collectors would ever pay the money for a modern throw.
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### Author:  [@crococorey](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/crococorey)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2013, 2:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-holy-grail-yoyo/59093/46 "2013-09-13T02:53:11Z")
IMO, a lava colored summit
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### Author:  [@james](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/james)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2013, 3:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-holy-grail-yoyo/59093/47 "2013-09-13T03:05:22Z")
this
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### Author:  [@yoyojoe](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyojoe)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2013, 3:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-holy-grail-yoyo/59093/48 "2013-09-13T03:45:02Z")
> [@vegabomb](#):
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> Thanks for that info. I’ve looked for info on this and have never heard it referred to as a contest prize or number produced.
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> [http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8308/7974307600\_c29d4268f4\_c.jpg](http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8308/7974307600_c29d4268f4_c.jpg)
How did you even come by that?
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### Author:  [@Snafu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Snafu)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2013, 3:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-holy-grail-yoyo/59093/49 "2013-09-13T03:59:10Z")
> [@Midlifeyoyoman](#):
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> Lol at the Nostalgia. Beautiful for sure but not many collectors would ever pay the money for a modern throw.
Wow I had to google I hope it comes with a bride and a month of Sundays worth in steak (wagyu beef 8) ) and a bottle of Dom.
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### Author:  [@vegabomb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/vegabomb)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2013, 4:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-holy-grail-yoyo/59093/50 "2013-09-13T04:08:28Z")
> [@yoyojoe](#):
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> How did you even come by that?
A large trade that ended up going bad. This was kind of a consolation from the person I was going to make the trade with.
Edit - fixed consultation to consolation. 🙂
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### Author:  [@Midlifeyoyoman](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Midlifeyoyoman)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2013, 4:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-holy-grail-yoyo/59093/51 "2013-09-13T04:54:13Z")
> [@Snafu](#):
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> Wow I had to google I hope it comes with a bride and a month of Sundays worth in steak (wagyu beef 8) ) and a bottle of Dom.
Hey that’s some good beef there man! Not better than the $65 meal (3lb porterhouse, potatoe, and salad) I get at “Doe’s Eat Place” best steak I’ve ever eaten and I’m a beef connoisseur. I’ve found many steak joints that make fine dining places like Ruth’s Chris seem low quality.
It reminds me of a Dayton wire wheel but is definitely a hand crafted piece of art. How it plays is pure curiosity. Surely it plays excellent being that it cost so much.
I actually stumbled across this throw on google not too long ago.
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### Author:  [@Midlifeyoyoman](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Midlifeyoyoman)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2013, 4:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-holy-grail-yoyo/59093/52 "2013-09-13T04:59:49Z")
> [@Jamesofyoyo](#):
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> this
Haha.
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### Author:  [@Midlifeyoyoman](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Midlifeyoyoman)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2013, 5:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-holy-grail-yoyo/59093/53 "2013-09-13T05:01:42Z")
A Flores popped up on the bay and its BIN price isn’t too high but the throw is in awful condition. The paint is completely gone off the rims and can barely make out the logo.
If I were to buy a Flores I’d at least want it to be in good enough condition that it felt like I was throwing a yoyo not something that a pet chewed on or was so rough that its appearance made it look like trash enstead of an antique.
How rare are Flores’ that are in decent condition?
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### Author:  [@kyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kyo)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2013, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-holy-grail-yoyo/59093/54 "2013-09-13T19:31:59Z")
> [@Midlifeyoyoman](#):
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> A Flores popped up on the bay and its BIN price isn’t too high but the throw is in awful condition. The paint is completely gone off the rims and can barely make out the logo.
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> If I were to buy a Flores I’d at least want it to be in good enough condition that it felt like I was throwing a yoyo not something that a pet chewed on or was so rough that its appearance made it look like trash enstead of an antique.
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> How rare are Flores’ that are in decent condition?
It’s not hard to find them in ‘ok’ condition… mint or near mint are very rare, and very expensive.
Kyle
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### Author:  [@Tetrahedron](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Tetrahedron)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2013, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-holy-grail-yoyo/59093/55 "2013-09-14T18:58:20Z")
Grails are personal.
I’ve recently acquired one of mine, which was a pink Yonity Jei, which I cannot wait for.
Terms of value, it’s not a high value throw but I was looking for a while and found one on the BST from an awesome seller.
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### Author:  [@kemar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kemar)
#### Post date: [September 15, 2013, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-holy-grail-yoyo/59093/56 "2013-09-15T20:52:46Z")
For me, the Holy Grail yoyo is a Phenom prototype 🙂
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### Author:  [@Apollo2](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apollo2)
#### Post date: [September 15, 2013, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-holy-grail-yoyo/59093/57 "2013-09-15T20:55:06Z")
> [@HVizier](#):
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> It depends on a lot really.
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> IMO I would love to have a Flores for the effect you are looking for
Heath?
Oh my goodness…
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### Author:  [@YoCyanightYo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoCyanightYo)
#### Post date: [September 15, 2013, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-holy-grail-yoyo/59093/58 "2013-09-15T21:45:30Z")
> [@kyo](#):
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> All the new stuff… pfft, boring, easily obtained with the right bank account.
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> Let’s talk ‘extremely hard to find’ first.
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> Goody Spin-a-Bell - there are several of these about, but they pop up -very- rarely…
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> TK Turbo-Yo - there are only 39 I believe, all owned in large collections or by people who have no intention of selling them. They were the prototype for the very first workable ball-bearing yoyo.
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> Bandalore Yoyo - In the early 40s, after Flores sold his company to Duncan he produced yoyos under the name Bandalore (yo-yo was a trademark sold to duncan with the company).
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> Now for the ‘only one of them known’ category…
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> 1904 Worlds Fair - As far as I know Tom Van Dan Elzen owns the only known example… though he did produce a short run of replicas several years ago.
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> Flores Advertising YoYo - I know of only one of these, owned by Greg Cohen and donated to the National Yo-Yo museum… quite possibly the earliest advertising yo-yo. There are bound to be others out there somewhere.
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> Now for the ‘so rare it’s almost a myth’ category.
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> Lego Yo-Yo - In the early boom days for yo-yos in the US, Lego was a wooden toy company (yes, the same LEGO that we know now). They wanted to cash in on the market, so they produced a run of wooden yo-yos. The problem was, by the time they were released, the economy had died, the yo-yo had faded out and there was no market left. Their rather clever solution, was to cut the yo-yos in half and use them as wheels for toy trucks, horse carts, etc. The only example I’ve ever seen, I found in a picture from the actual LEGO museum… and even that took quite a lot of digging. They -have- to be out there somewhere, but the odds are that people probably just don’t know what they are. Even the wooden toys from that era are very hard to find.
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> There are quite a few others, but that should get you started 🙂
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> Kyle
It’s pretty easy to find 2 pics or so of the lego yoyo, but I also found this:
Look closely at the wheels, and what do you see? 😃
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### Author:  [@giovinolo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/giovinolo)
#### Post date: [September 15, 2013, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-holy-grail-yoyo/59093/59 "2013-09-15T21:46:40Z")
The mp3 yoyo mod (from bist i think,european for sure). Its a nice little package
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### Author:  [@YoCyanightYo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoCyanightYo)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2013, 4:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-holy-grail-yoyo/59093/60 "2013-09-20T04:20:38Z")
Don’t let this thread die! I wanna see what you guys holy grails are 😛
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