# What is The Best Organic?

**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944
**Category:** General Yo-Yo
**Created:** [March 19, 2020, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944 "2020-03-19T22:05:22Z")
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#### Post date: [April 25, 2020, 10:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/288 "2020-04-25T22:23:38Z")

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Retic boa is probably the best organic in its price range. Edgeless is really nice. Anything by general yo is amazing as well. Just keepin it at that 🙂

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#### Post date: [April 26, 2020, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/289 "2020-04-26T01:07:26Z")

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Kinda. It’s made from a higher grade more dense aluminum. The Sudo has a lot more presence on the string than the Parlay, while still feeling light and maneuverable to a degree. The extra rim weight gives the Sudo a much more stable feel to it and spins forever.

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#### Post date: [April 26, 2020, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/290 "2020-04-26T09:01:43Z")

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having played both i 100% agree! i remember throwing the Sudo and thinking it was so so similar to the Bape and was wondering why i’d never heard the comparison being made before.

if you’re not in the collecting game but you want to know hope the Bape plays, i personally think the Sudo gets you 80-90% there, just playfeelwise.

had a Parlay as well, didn’t have much affection for it even though i really love organics all around. the Sudo has a similar shape but it just plays differently. more powerful, more stable, didn’t compromise on manoeuvrability – i believe the maker of the Sudo (who also partnered with One Drop on the Parlay) wrote an essay somewhere mentioning the Sudo was how they had always, originally intended the Parlay to be. it’s just an amazing throw. i’d go as far as to say it’s the best performing undersized organic i’ve thrown.

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#### Post date: [April 26, 2020, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/291 "2020-04-26T09:51:39Z")

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What side effects would you recommend for a good setup?

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#### Post date: [April 26, 2020, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/292 "2020-04-26T11:37:16Z")

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i played mine with aluminium flat caps and ultra lights, they both felt really good to me. ULs felt a tad more “rim weighted” but the flat caps felt “fuller” if you know what i mean! i don’t think you’d be disappointed with either set up : )

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#### Post date: [April 26, 2020, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/293 "2020-04-26T13:35:23Z")

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My Sudo is set up with Ultralights and its :fire:

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#### Post date: [April 26, 2020, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/294 "2020-04-26T13:57:43Z")

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i have a copper sudo man… i love it… i’m so in love with it. everyone should own a sudo… except for @d34dj3d… he’s cool, he knows… but there’s other people, the ones that kick kittens… they shouldn’t own a sudo… they’ll make themselves known…

. jed isn’t one of those guys, he genuinely had good reasoning above.

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#### Post date: [April 26, 2020, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/295 "2020-04-26T14:01:00Z")

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Not sure what is the best organic, but I know which one is the most hip! :joy:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/d/9/b/d9bbf09301b79f4084addac4b86e328a0ed60313.jpeg)

I have a A-rt grail on the way, and if you don’t count the plastics I have (Neo & First Base), then this is the only organic I will own.  
So for me personally I guess it’s the best organic. Best yoyo is the yoyo you have in your pocket amirite? Haha

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#### Post date: [April 26, 2020, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/296 "2020-04-26T14:43:12Z")

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Sudo is really good. Grey with grey Ultralights and Markmont Formulas Reby.

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#### Post date: [April 26, 2020, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/297 "2020-04-26T15:44:48Z")

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> [@MoonageMin](#):
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> I have a A-rt grail on the way, and if you don’t count the plastics I have (Neo & First Base), then this is the only organic I will own.

Oh man! So jealous!

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#### Post date: [April 26, 2020, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/298 "2020-04-26T16:05:49Z")

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> [@fatguysnacks247](#):
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> i have a copper sudo man… i love it… i’m so in love with it. everyone should own a sudo… except for @d34dj3d

The sudo is a real improvement over the parlay. I have a copper parlay, I wish I had a copper sudo. I think my copper parlay plays better than my regular parlay. Likewise the optimally geared ywet from static co is a great improvement over the other ywet I’ve had. The only ywet I still own is the static co version. Static co is really in their zone when it comes to doing this kind of thing.

I like the parlay for what it is, but the point I was trying to make above is that the parlay/sudo is not a great recommendation for somebody new to organics. Unless you want to risk making that person dislike organic throws. The experience of playing the parlay is far from that of playing the grail, MMC, life, etc.

Now if somebody had some high end throws a over decade ago, and is looking to relive that experience without going to the trouble and expense of hunting down the old throws then I would immediately recommend the parlay. It is readily available and a great alternative for somebody wanting to experience narrower high walled unresponsive throws.

You know what would make the sudo/parlay an absolute must buy for me? A D or A bearing. There’s some magic in this kind of shape with a small bearing. I’d buy one instantly even if I already owned a thousand parlays.

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#### Post date: [April 26, 2020, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/299 "2020-04-26T16:11:44Z")

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i heart static co man

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#### Post date: [April 26, 2020, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/300 "2020-04-26T17:39:27Z")

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If I end up selling it I will let you know 🙂

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#### Post date: [April 26, 2020, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/301 "2020-04-26T18:39:15Z")

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So then, anything made from a salvaged Church Organ would also be considered ‘Organic’.

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#### Post date: [April 26, 2020, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/302 "2020-04-26T18:45:43Z")

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Possibly, I’m not certain what materials are use to make a church organ. lol

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#### Post date: [April 26, 2020, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/303 "2020-04-26T18:52:53Z")

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Well, I was board so I just lumbered down to the Salvage yard.

I looked around… and right before I was ready to leave, I found one.

And wooden ya know it. They are made out of trees🤓

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#### Post date: [April 26, 2020, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/304 "2020-04-26T18:58:24Z")

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The Sudo is gonna be one of those yoyos that will be highly sought after in a few years when people realize how good it actually is. Best to get one now before the price inflates. Sudo is made by Static Co run by Aaron Day.

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#### Post date: [April 26, 2020, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/305 "2020-04-26T19:21:50Z")

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and aaron is a wicked cool dude as well man. every piece i’ve had from static i’ve really enjoyed.

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So it’s the best yo-yo and it’s in your pocket?

Or you have yoyos in all your pockets and one is the ‘best’ of the yoyos in your pockets?

Actually the best yo-yo is the one you love to throw so much that it is seldom ‘in’ your pocket.

Unless of course you have 2 of them and the one in your pocket is a backup.

🤡

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#### Post date: [April 26, 2020, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/307 "2020-04-26T20:50:50Z")

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see, i just wear a speedo everywhere. no pocket problem :wink:

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