# What is The Best Organic?
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944
**Category:** General Yo-Yo
**Created:** [March 19, 2020, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944 "2020-03-19T22:05:22Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@gomanual](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/gomanual)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2020, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/206 "2020-04-03T15:52:08Z")
Huh. I’m so used to seeing that feature on yoyos of all shapes I never really considered it before. I took a skeptical eyeball to my Overture though and it’s not there. Color me informed.
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### Author:  [@fatguysnacks247](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/fatguysnacks247)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2020, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/207 "2020-04-03T15:55:39Z")
the sparrow and junior do play a little different. the junior plays with more intent i would say… maybe, more direct? you can feel the “life vs. grail factor” to it, if that makes sense, but it is not nearly as pronounced… like the subtleties between a canvas and a diptych…
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### Author:  [@fatguysnacks247](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/fatguysnacks247)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2020, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/208 "2020-04-03T16:02:37Z")
it would not seem relevant to me unless someone specifically asked for a modified organic vs. an organic. which, doesn’t seem to come up in my general conversation for assistance… if someone had peed in my cheerios that day, maybe we’d having a different conversation though…
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### Author:  [@Dust](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Dust)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2020, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/209 "2020-04-03T16:47:10Z")
It’s round, it’s soft, it isn’t an H (like doomsday genesis) sure not a V (banshee) and is no W (like Tundra)
Sorry, but it’s closest to an O in my book
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### Author:  [@Benmichael86](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Benmichael86)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2020, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/210 "2020-04-03T17:11:51Z")
> [@gomanual](#):
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> I took a skeptical eyeball to my Overture though and it’s not there.
Speaking of the Overture, also a top tier organic. Non-genetically modified.
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### Author:  [@WorkFromHome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/WorkFromHome)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2020, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/211 "2020-04-03T17:12:58Z")
The Ti Vayder is tricky to classify because it looks and feels like it has elements from both H and O shapes. If pressed, I would say it’s more of a soft H shape because of the sharp angle from the response and the softened step.
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### Author:  [@eternalmetal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/eternalmetal)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2020, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/212 "2020-04-03T17:37:13Z")
Huh? The yoyo looks and plays nothing like an organic. It is definitely more of a V/H shape that is SLIGHTLY rounded. I love the yoyo and it is one of my favorites, but the last thing id call it is organic. Compare it with the DV888: that yoyo is organic, the Vayder is more like an H-shaped with curves.
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### Author:  [@Dust](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Dust)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2020, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/213 "2020-04-03T17:45:58Z")
ok . DV888 organic? that thing was a flat brick in the hand. If you think dv888 is O, well never agree what O even is.
Miles from “o”
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### Author:  [@Durfee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Durfee)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2020, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/215 "2020-04-03T18:05:22Z")
This thread is incredible. This is what the quarantine is doing to people.
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### Author:  [@Benmichael86](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Benmichael86)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2020, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/216 "2020-04-03T18:14:27Z")
Careful @Dust you might derail the thread.
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### Author:  [@fatguysnacks247](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/fatguysnacks247)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2020, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/217 "2020-04-03T18:15:53Z")
@Durfee, think about it man… it’s hard to road rage under lockdown, so turn to the information highway instead! at least we made up 😘🥰
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### Author:  [@French](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/French)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2020, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/218 "2020-04-03T18:29:40Z")
Some of this has been like watching Gomez Addams playing with his trains…
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### Author:  [@Roy\_Dodge](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Roy_Dodge)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2020, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/219 "2020-04-03T18:34:05Z")
Hey, I tried to put this car back on the highway, but it seems that we prefer the scenic route ::shrugs::
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### Author:  [@fatguysnacks247](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/fatguysnacks247)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2020, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/220 "2020-04-03T18:37:39Z")
my answers are:
a-rt grail
static co. sudo
general yo hattrick (updated)
no more trains.
edit: what about the save deth trainwreck 2? is that… nvm…
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### Author:  [@FrankieJR](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/FrankieJR)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2020, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/221 "2020-04-03T18:52:16Z")
Grail isn’t organic. At this rate I had to say it because someone was going to eventually
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### Author:  [@FrankieJR](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/FrankieJR)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2020, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/222 "2020-04-03T18:54:05Z")
@anon49438433 you buy another life yet? 🤣
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### Author:  [@hobbygod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobbygod)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2020, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/223 "2020-04-03T18:57:22Z")
You like hatrick more than 5 star?
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### Author:  [@gomanual](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/gomanual)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2020, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/224 "2020-04-03T19:01:52Z")
LMAO. Perhaps we should agree that if it’s not a Luftverk 000 it’s not organic?
I do see the discontinuity in the Grail, thanks to @beezy’s excellent pictures in [this thread](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-rt-grail-review-with-comparison-pic/83327).
I’m not an organic connoisseur, so I guess perhaps the nuance is lost on me.
Edit: Removed link to Luftverk. They don’t have any yoyos for sale, but it’s still another yoyo store I suppose.
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### Author:  [@Throwto100](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Throwto100)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2020, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/225 "2020-04-03T19:04:14Z")
I bought one from Yyf for 15 bucks plus bearings for 5 bucks.
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### Author:  [@ChrisFrancz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ChrisFrancz)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2020, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-the-best-organic/316944/226 "2020-04-03T19:17:55Z")
Ah, that’s nice. Favorite yoyo.
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