# What is my skill level? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [August 30, 2014, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-my-skill-level/69054 "2014-08-30T20:13:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Eli\_Flops](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/90db22/32.png) [@Eli\_Flops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Eli_Flops)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-my-skill-level/69054/1 "2014-08-30T20:13:13Z")
I have been throwing for about 9 months and only know one other person IRL who yoyos (i think he is about the same skill level as myself). Aside from videos posted by pros and legends, i have nothing to compare myself to. Ill try to describe where i am at right now: There is a playlist on a youtube channel ([www.youtube.com/BillyBobs](http://www.youtube.com/BillyBobs)) called “Yoyo String Tricks 1A - Easy to Difficult”. With the exception of Brent Stole and boingy boing, i can do everything up to Green Revolution which is 49th out of the 66 videos. I can do all of these pretty consistently and know a couple other tricks not on the playlist with similar difficulty to kwijibo or green revolution. If 1 is someone trying to learn a bind and 10 is Gentry stein, about where would you place me? SEE EDIT 4TH COMMENT DOWN ---
**Author:** ![Alphuh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/alphuh/32/1496_2.png) [@Alphuh](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Alphuh)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-my-skill-level/69054/2 "2014-08-30T20:27:50Z")
1. ---
**Author:** ![kadabrium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kadabrium/32/1522_2.png) [@kadabrium](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kadabrium)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-my-skill-level/69054/3 "2014-08-30T20:33:29Z")
just my take at such a scale: 1: learning a bind… 2: intermediate-advanced 1 3: advanced 2-master 4: starting to learn from pros and make own tricks. feeling able to learn most tricks due to sufficient understanding of various elements. 5-6: having enough tricks to throw a decent 1 min freestyle with fewer mistakes. able to make videos in general. 6-7: forming a personal style and can throw an original 3 min freestyle without much difficulty. above 8: Not something I can relate to atm. at this level you should be confident to compete in final rounds of competitions. the difference between levels 8, 9 and 10 is generally indiscernible from a perspective below level 5-6. ---
**Author:** ![Eli\_Flops](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/90db22/32.png) [@Eli\_Flops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Eli_Flops)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-my-skill-level/69054/4 "2014-08-30T20:48:54Z")
> [@kadabrium](#): > > just my take at such a scale: > 1: learning a bind… > 2: intermediate-advanced 1 > 3: advanced 2-master > 4: starting to learn from pros and make own tricks. feeling able to learn most tricks due to sufficient understanding of various elements. > 5-6: having enough tricks to throw a decent 1 min freestyle with fewer mistakes. able to make videos in general. > 6-7: forming a personal style and can throw an original 3 min freestyle without much difficulty. > above 8: Not something I can relate to atm. at this level you should be confident to compete in final rounds of competitions. the difference between levels 8, 9 and 10 is generally indiscernible from a perspective below level 5-6. In response to this, I’m going to change up my scale a bit. 1 is still a person trying to learn a bind, but a skill level of 10 now relates to the skill of pro players in general, meaning anyone sponsored by a yoyo company who competes. I should point out that i am quite capable of a 1 minute freestyle with little to no mistakes. Once i start to learn a new trick, I generally don’t try to learn another until i can do it 9/10 times. I don’t try to learn a ton of tricks at once. ---
**Author:** ![Coronett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/coronett/32/1393_2.png) [@Coronett](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Coronett)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-my-skill-level/69054/5 "2014-08-30T21:06:26Z")
> [@Eli\_Flops](#): > > In response to this, I’m going to change up my scale a bit. 1 is still a person trying to learn a bind, but a skill level of 10 now relates to the skill of pro players in general, meaning anyone sponsored by a yoyo company. I should point out that i am quite capable of a 1 minute freestyle with little to no mistakes. Once i start to learn a new trick, I generally don’t try to learn another until i can do it 9/10 times. I don’t try to learn a ton of tricks at once. Anybody can be sponsored by a yoyo company. They just have to like you 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![nolangherity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d6d6ee/32.png) [@nolangherity](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nolangherity)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-my-skill-level/69054/6 "2014-08-30T22:16:29Z")
this is the link to the playlist mentioned in the OP: https://www.youtube.com/embed/videoseries?list=PLFC58874788AFC753&wmode=transparent&rel=0&autohide=1&showinfo=1&enablejsapi=1 ---
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-my-skill-level/69054/7 "2014-08-30T22:51:11Z")
It sounds like you haven’t started making up your own tricks yet but know some tricks on the more advanced side so Id say you’re a 3 or 4 at the moment Based on your scale that 10 is the average pro Id say I’m a 6, maayybe 7 if that tells you anything, my latest video - [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26iXMsbtFJw](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26iXMsbtFJw) ---
**Author:** ![Eli\_Flops](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/90db22/32.png) [@Eli\_Flops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Eli_Flops)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 11:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-my-skill-level/69054/8 "2014-08-30T23:32:54Z")
Well I tinker here and there with tricks. I just assume that if I make something up it’s already a trick. For example, I figured out a one handed bind a few months ago without ever seeing it before but I figured someone else must have done it already. And yeah I was right ha ---
**Author:** ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 2:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-my-skill-level/69054/9 "2014-08-31T02:10:52Z")
> [@kadabrium](#): > > just my take at such a scale: > 1: learning a bind… > 2: intermediate-advanced 1 > 3: advanced 2-master > 4: starting to learn from pros and make own tricks. feeling able to learn most tricks due to sufficient understanding of various elements. > 5-6: having enough tricks to throw a decent 1 min freestyle with fewer mistakes. able to make videos in general. > 6-7: forming a personal style and can throw an original 3 min freestyle without much difficulty. > above 8: Not something I can relate to atm. at this level you should be confident to compete in final rounds of competitions. the difference between levels 8, 9 and 10 is generally indiscernible from a perspective below level 5-6. 8 is at the point where you can make finals at regular sized contests (me) but not at big contests (me again) 9 is making finals at big contests and 10 is placing at big contests ---
**Author:** ![Yoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/41988e/32.png) [@Yoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyo)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 2:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-my-skill-level/69054/10 "2014-08-31T02:18:01Z")
Nah, 8 is winning those contests. ---
**Author:** ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 2:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-my-skill-level/69054/11 "2014-08-31T02:31:49Z")
> [@Yoyo](#): > > Nah, 8 is winning those contests. What’s 9 and 10? ---
**Author:** ![Crossfire503](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c67d28/32.png) [@Crossfire503](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Crossfire503)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-my-skill-level/69054/12 "2014-08-31T12:03:50Z")
This is definitely a humbling scale. Putting freestyle competition winning at the top really puts “learning tricks” in perspective. That being said this definitely puts me in about a 3.5 range. I’ve learned the entire list up through advanced 2 on this site plus some extras of similar skill from other sites. I’ve also picked up bits and pieces from the expert list and can mostly get through White Buddha. When I can get the 1.5 mount/buddha’s revenge bucket type thing to work anyway… I have definitely started being able to put together a few basic combos but probably nothing real original. And I can definitely learn some moves/techniques/tricks from watching videos without tutorial but usually only based on certain types of tricks. Constantly learning from this community. ---
**Author:** ![Erik\_kerber](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/erik_kerber/32/7939_2.png) [@Erik\_kerber](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Erik_kerber)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-my-skill-level/69054/13 "2014-08-31T13:04:56Z")
I would put myself at a 5-6 I csn mske a decent yoyo video (Check my signature) And I can do a decent one minute freestyle I mean I got 2nd on the Amature division at MWR so it must have been pretty decent. ---
**Author:** ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-my-skill-level/69054/14 "2014-08-31T13:17:18Z")
I’ll redo this 1: A non-yoyoer 2: Learning beginner tricks 3: Learning intermediate-advanced tricks 4: Learning all the tricks 5: Making your own tricks 6: Competing with a full routine of originality (EDIT:) or inventing (not just discovering) your own tricks 7: Doing well in contests 8: Placing at contests 9: Doing well in big contests 10: Placing at big contests. This puts me at 7-8 ---
**Author:** ![Erik\_kerber](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/erik_kerber/32/7939_2.png) [@Erik\_kerber](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Erik_kerber)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-my-skill-level/69054/15 "2014-08-31T13:58:34Z")
> [@stuarttw](#): > > I’ll redo this > 1: A non-yoyoer > 2: Learning beginner tricks > 3: Learning intermediate-advanced tricks > 4: Learning all the tricks > 5: Making your own tricks > 6: Competing with a full routine of originality > 7: Doing well in contests > 8: Placing at contests > 9: Doing well in big contests > 10: Placing at big contests. > This puts me at 7-8 I’m at about 7-8 on that list too. ---
**Author:** ![Yoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/41988e/32.png) [@Yoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyo)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-my-skill-level/69054/16 "2014-08-31T14:32:24Z")
I’m at a 5 because I don’t compete. ---
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-my-skill-level/69054/17 "2014-08-31T14:58:23Z")
> [@Erik\_kerber](#): > > I’m at about 7-8 on that list too. Erik, open division and amateur division are both VERY different :wink: I think you and I are at about the same level and I can’t even imagine myself making open finals at even a small state contest at this point Id say we’re a 5, maybe 6 on that list ---
**Author:** ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-my-skill-level/69054/18 "2014-08-31T16:53:44Z")
> [@Yoyo](#): > > I’m at a 5 because I don’t compete. Perhaps I should say “able to compete…” > [@andy569](#): > > Erik, open division and amateur division are both VERY different :wink: > > I think you and I are at about the same level and I can’t even imagine myself making open finals at even a small state contest at this point > > Id say we’re a 5, maybe 6 on that list Agreed ---
**Author:** ![Erik\_kerber](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/erik_kerber/32/7939_2.png) [@Erik\_kerber](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Erik_kerber)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-my-skill-level/69054/19 "2014-08-31T17:07:54Z")
> [@andy569](#): > > Erik, open division and amateur division are both VERY different :wink: > > I think you and I are at about the same level and I can’t even imagine myself making open finals at even a small state contest at this point > > Id say we’re a 5, maybe 6 on that list True. But still I placed at a contest ---
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-my-skill-level/69054/20 "2014-08-31T17:13:07Z")
> [@Erik\_kerber](#): > > True. But still I placed at a contest In the amateur division :🙂 [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-my-skill-level/69054.md?page=2)