# What is a good responsive

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**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [October 28, 2026, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-a-good-responsive/455770 "2026-10-28T19:57:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Post date:** [October 29, 2026, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-a-good-responsive/455770/21 "2026-10-29T11:46:46Z")

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Ultra State. Deep State is very good too.

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2026, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-a-good-responsive/455770/22 "2026-10-29T11:46:50Z")

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If your goal is to start at the beginning, aim for plastic. As mentioned by others, the Butterfly and Freehand One are both excellent.

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2026, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-a-good-responsive/455770/23 "2026-10-29T11:50:35Z")

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awesome! I’ll add it to the “irresponisble spending” list in a cool colorway

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2026, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-a-good-responsive/455770/24 "2026-10-29T14:57:12Z")

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I haven’t played any of the Deepstate series. That said, I believe that smaller bearings work best for responsives and therefore recommend the DocPop Weekender, which uses an A bearing and is machined by OneDrop. 🙂 There is one in the BST that I linked above. 🤙

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2026, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-a-good-responsive/455770/25 "2026-10-29T16:27:37Z")

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DEEP STATE! Tried all but the Ultra. The Deeper and Deepest are very similar, but the Deepest has side effects, so it wins. But the Deep State is a tad narrower with the same weight. It feels heftier, and more stable. Fits in the pocket more comfortably. I could hit all the same tricks with the Deep as I could with the other 2 generations, but I had more fun doing it with the Deep State. Love it!

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2026, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-a-good-responsive/455770/26 "2026-10-29T16:32:52Z")

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deep state, alley cat 650b, caribou lodge everyday

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**Author:** ![Bigjeezus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bigjeezus/32/709257_2.png) [@Bigjeezus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Bigjeezus)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2026, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-a-good-responsive/455770/27 "2026-10-29T16:44:08Z")

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The deep doesn’t have SE’s? :open_mouth: or are they just microcaps?

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**Author:** ![Splizacular](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/splizacular/32/640487_2.png) [@Splizacular](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Splizacular)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2026, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-a-good-responsive/455770/28 "2026-10-29T17:02:30Z")

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if by “best” you mean generally capable, deepest state wins pretty handily. it will be the most forgiving and is the generalist among the 3 non ultras. in regards to ultra don’t even worry about it. titanium does not make a yoyo better or more capable. it is durable and can be machined to thinner tolerances allowing for different possible weight distributions, but it’s by no means going to enable play that the others don’t. deep state is very narrow and wont be very forgiving if you’re trying to also do 1a with it. deeper doesn’t have side effects but will be more forgiving than deep

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2026, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-a-good-responsive/455770/29 "2026-10-29T18:21:19Z")

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Lots of good suggestions on here, but do yourself a favor and spend $4 on a Duncan Butterfly as a beater. Learn stalls, Kickflips, etc. See if you can split the atom with it. :wink:

Get something nice as well like a RBC/Deep state but you will appreciate the Butterfly.

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2026, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-a-good-responsive/455770/30 "2026-10-29T18:36:39Z")

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I would highly recommend getting a freehand one if your goal is to start over and learn the basics.

> **[Freehand One - Plastic FH1](https://yoyoexpert.com/products/freehand-one-yoyo-by-duncan-toys?_pos=2&_sid=14db44d15&_ss=r&variant=49396712603838)**
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> In 2001 the original Duncan Freehand was launched and with it came a change in the world of yoyos. Duncan had tapped into something unique. Although the why was not fully understood, everybody recognized it: the Freehand was special. In addition to...

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2026, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-a-good-responsive/455770/31 "2026-10-29T18:37:34Z")

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> [@Bigjeezus](#):
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> The deep doesn’t have SE’s?

Deeper State doesn’t have SEs.

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2026, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-a-good-responsive/455770/32 "2026-10-29T18:56:29Z")

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Get a Freehand and it will play responsive at the start. Play it so much that you break it into the point where it becomes unresponsive.

This is the way

![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/f/6/f/f6f2f9d45af5dd6b1f8b9928ade4019a4a2bf01d.webp "Staring Star Wars GIF by Disney+ - Find & Share on GIPHY")

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2026, 10:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-a-good-responsive/455770/33 "2026-10-29T22:04:49Z")

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I didn’t find the extra width of the Deeper and Deepest beneficial enough to warrant the extra bulk in the pocket. I think the Deep stays straighter for me when switching direction. The Deep seems more forgiving with my clumsy, crooked throws. Gotta give the FH1 another shot. Had one around 2010 and gave it away.

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2026, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-a-good-responsive/455770/34 "2026-10-29T22:35:36Z")

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In addition to [the correct answer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-a-good-responsive/455770/2), I can also recommend the YYF Confusion. IMO it is the perfect **D bearing** (smaller, faster spinning) unresponsive, basically the platonic ideal.

 ![yyf-confusion-yohans-edition](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/7/6/7/767278524d4dd982299970daa06ad1e07a9b87a1.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2026, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-a-good-responsive/455770/35 "2026-10-29T22:53:06Z")

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The YYF Whip got me through the responsive trick ladder where other yoyos would stop spinning or snap back too fast. Not sure if you can spirit bomb with it, but everything through Atomic Bomb and Mach 5 was easy enough. It’s ok for stalls, too. It looks wide, but the walls are high. Feels lighter than the FH1 and doesn’t have a strong kick-back. Haven’t tried STM with it, but might now.

> **[Whip](https://yoyoexpert.com/products/yyf-whip-yoyo)**
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> The YoYoFactory Whip fuses modern performance with classic responsive play. It comes fitted with a slim bearing and silicone pad response for tight binds, consistent throws, and long spins. It has a comfortable shape, a textured grinding surface, and...

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2026, 11:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-a-good-responsive/455770/36 "2026-10-29T23:18:35Z")

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I enjoyed the one I had, I modded it and gave it to a friend

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2026, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-a-good-responsive/455770/37 "2026-10-29T23:27:24Z")

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> [@SpaceCat](#):
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> I didn’t find the extra width of the Deeper and Deepest beneficial enough to warrant the extra bulk in the pocket

whether a yoyo fits in my pocket isn’t really a consideration for me. i want playability and ill throw it in a pouch in my backpack 🤷‍♂️

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2026, 11:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-a-good-responsive/455770/38 "2026-10-29T23:58:26Z")

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I went and traded something to get the confusion back. I gave him something unresponsive that I was not using

 ![IMG_0097](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/2/a/8/2a875c13178c11d0bd3b76bd51e95289734787f7.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2026, 12:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-a-good-responsive/455770/39 "2026-10-30T00:40:04Z")

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Been playing mine a lot today

 ![1677](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/5/c/9/5c95eb925bb9be65259c030a9f257ed99a41a2f7.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2026, 2:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-a-good-responsive/455770/40 "2026-10-30T02:35:30Z")

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Alright let’s disregard the deep state/ultras, Duncan throws, and the rest already mentioned. what’s the next top 3 METAL responsive. Nothing against wood, just for the sake of conversation. And perhaps regular size 55/57mm

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