# what happened to Innovative Yoyo Concepts? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [October 16, 2017, 9:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-happened-to-innovative-yoyo-concepts/85005 "2017-10-16T09:14:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![yoyodoc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyodoc/32/48820_2.png) [@yoyodoc](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyodoc)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 11:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-happened-to-innovative-yoyo-concepts/85005/21 "2017-10-19T23:40:08Z")
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**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-happened-to-innovative-yoyo-concepts/85005/22 "2018-07-17T08:23:59Z")
I think this yoyo would make an interesting addition to a collection, and I honestly wouldnā€™t mind having one. I am realistic about cutout yoyos not being too great after getting my Hattoriā€¦ the amount of drag (and noise!) from the cutouts is astonishing. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/1/1/1/111e39a7a6dd27783e6ac7b529f524b747fb6373.jpeg) Still completely playable, of course, but it wouldnā€™t even make my list of top 100 yoyos Iā€™ve played. :wink: ---
**Author:** ![yoyospirit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyospirit/32/219875_2.png) [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2018, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-happened-to-innovative-yoyo-concepts/85005/23 "2018-07-18T05:26:17Z")
Lol the only thing I remember about that company is how the Breathe had a 90% price reduction on the BST, from 200 to $20, and people still wouldnā€™t buy it! No wonder they gave up, that company did basically what James Copley did except they managed to do it legally. Even GN Yoyo Co managed to produce a better yoyo than the Breathe. ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2018, 5:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-happened-to-innovative-yoyo-concepts/85005/24 "2018-07-18T05:34:34Z")
Well if anyone has a breathe for $20 I will take it! Hereā€™s pictures of the cutouts: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/4/4/0/440a5da688df0d3fb981892a8e5b26b63e79a455.jpeg) I agree that you want to avoid cutouts in a yo-yo in general though :wink: ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-happened-to-innovative-yoyo-concepts/85005/25 "2018-08-24T07:18:17Z")
> [@yoyospirit](#): > > Even GN Yoyo Co managed to produce a better yoyo than the Breathe. Who are GN Yoyo Co? ---
**Author:** ![NoT\_ATHROWER](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/not_athrower/32/14242_2.png) [@NoT\_ATHROWER](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/NoT_ATHROWER)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-happened-to-innovative-yoyo-concepts/85005/26 "2018-08-24T09:57:29Z")
My friendā€™s Breatheā€™s axel broke in half and got stuck in the yoyo a few years back :joy: ---
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-happened-to-innovative-yoyo-concepts/85005/27 "2018-08-24T12:07:26Z")
I REMEMBER THEM :joy: They were basically a meme on YYE and facebook. I know theyā€™re not around anymore (anyone know if Zorro is still around?) but I donā€™t really want to give them anymore public hate than theyā€™ve already gotten so Iā€™ll just pm you. ā€¦Iā€™ll leave this here thoughā€¦ [I'm starting a Company](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/im-starting-a-company/69842) @Rosenberg I think you were around, you remember them too right ---
**Author:** ![Rosenberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rosenberg/32/20465_2.png) [@Rosenberg](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Rosenberg)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-happened-to-innovative-yoyo-concepts/85005/28 "2018-08-24T14:38:02Z")
@andy569 Lol yep I remember. That was around the ā€œIā€™m starting a yoyo companyā€ heyday and zorro pretty much gave everyone a lesson in how not to do it and memeā€™d himself in the process Edit: Itā€™s probably no coincidence, but I havenā€™t seen him around in ages ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-happened-to-innovative-yoyo-concepts/85005/29 "2018-08-24T22:34:02Z")
> [@Rosenberg](#): > > @andy569 Lol yep I remember. That was around the ā€œIā€™m starting a yoyo companyā€ heyday and zorro pretty much gave everyone a lesson in how not to do it and memeā€™d himself in the process > Edit: Itā€™s probably no coincidence, but I havenā€™t seen him around in ages Whoa, I donā€™t want to go down that path! ---
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 11:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-happened-to-innovative-yoyo-concepts/85005/30 "2018-08-24T23:21:55Z")
Heā€™s not wrong though :joy: [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-happened-to-innovative-yoyo-concepts/85005.md?page=1)