# What do you think the most capable “organic” shaped yoyo is?

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**Created:** [December 1, 2025, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-do-you-think-the-most-capable-organic-shaped-yoyo-is/437165 "2025-12-01T00:24:54Z")\
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> [@Shwa](#):
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> Butterball was the one that really made me say, wtf, this thing is insane! I really like that fact that you can even make a mistake while hitting your hand and she keeps on spinning.

I love my Butterball. It’s so perfectly round but performs amazingly.

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> [@firestormfirst](#):
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> Heaven Sent Creep

I’ve always wanted one of these.

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> [@ChrisFrancz](#):
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> All great recommendations so you should buy them all.

![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/e/f/3/ef3ed4a2ed39503982e4525c3b3ff4356dd625e7.gif)

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Does the yoyofactory Essence count? Very good for long combo’s

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Sengoku Orochi

> **[Orochi](https://yoyoexpert.com/products/orochi-yoyo-by-sengoku)**
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> From Sengoku: After many years I finally came up with an organic design worthy of the brand. The design must be elegant, classic, and have a pure organic feeling. What sets this yoyo apart from the typical Organic yoyo are the measures, weight...

its maybe not as luxury or old skool as some of the other ones mentioned here, but you could legitimately compete with it

plays very good

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my apologies, didnt realise you were after monometals specifically

the recess joyride is quite good and cheap fwiw, (if old)

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> [@GnarlyCharlie](#):
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> something a bit more smooth and rounded

Ooo you def want hades :100: my fav yoyo of any yoyo.

 ![IMG_2441](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/2/5/b/25b934c39b8243695edcab19b35266e5d6eff075.webp)

…or asora v3 if you want something higher walled and actually a mono. Hades has thicker than normal walls and doesn’t have any bimetal sluggishness tho fwiw. It is heavy tho.

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Anything that has a d bearing and heavy rims is going to feel like it has loads of power. I recommend a d bearing joyride, (that has more of a mid rim) or something like that. I’m a BIG fan of the boosted rainier, I’ve been playing it back to back with some yyf bimetals (R4 and moonlight) and it hangs with them.

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Motion harmonic is a very capable organic bi-metal. I haven’t tried the new Motion perpendicular but that also looks like a fun one.

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The Motion Perpendicular, while not being a mono, is a fantastic performer. I’ve thrown mine nearly every day since I got it.

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OD Warlock packs a punch!

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Are we talking full size? If so, something from the tone family from yoyorec. For smaller throws i would probably recommend the capstan 22 from yoyoworkshop, although it is barely organic.

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I don’t have the exact answer to this question, and that is why I am asking\>

Can somebody post an image or two(gap view) of what they consider specifically an ‘organic shape’?

Because there seems to be at least a few different ideas of what constitutes the/an organic shape.

To me(personally) when somebody says organic, I think of a Canvas or a Sudo, or a Grail or a Freehand MG or Creep or Bapezilla, etc…

I don’t think of shapes that are modified towards more of a V shape, etc.

If …. Say, people consider maybe 3 specific shapes that would be acceptable as ‘organic’ what are they?

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sudo @yoyodoc , my personal fave

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> **[Deepest State - One Drop YoYos](https://onedropyoyos.com/yoyos/deepest-state/)**
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> The One Drop Deepest State is a refined, wider, and more beginner-friendly evolution of the original Deep State yo-yo, created in collaboration with Jeff Atwood’s “Stay Gold, America” effort. It keeps the compact, semi-responsive feel of the State...

👆💛🙌

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This is what I think of when I hear organic anyway. Basically anything that has a D shape. Gradual slopes with nothing sharp. I don’t know If I consider anything beyond that organic.

 ![IMG_5382](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/8/c/1/8c10f663e3bd2621ee920ebc578c5008d62a58ec.jpeg)

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> [@yoyodoc](#):
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> Can somebody post an image or two(gap view) of what they consider specifically an ‘organic shape’?

For me personally I’d say any of these constitute an “organic” shape. Obviously some are far more organic than others.

 ![IMG_2917](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/1/d/d/1ddf25c88aba4cf3748656bdf140cf299ff855e3.jpeg)

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> [@yoyodoc](#):
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> To me(personally) when somebody says organic, I think of a Canvas or a Sudo, or a Grail or a Freehand MG or Creep or Bapezilla, etc…

Totally! Same here. Those are all killer organic shapes.

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Have you tried the Deepest State with a concave bearing? Wondering how unresponsive you can make one.

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sudo is very fun.

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> [@Benthrowsyoyo](#):
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> Are we talking full size? If so, something from the tone family from yoyorec.

The Monotone looks pretty nice I gotta say. And with YYR behind it I’m sure it’ll spin for days.

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