# What do I need? **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [March 12, 2014, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-do-i-need/64573 "2014-03-12T15:21:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Zorro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zorro/32/206266_2.png) [@Zorro](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zorro)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2014, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-do-i-need/64573/1 "2014-03-12T15:21:24Z")
Okay, I am looking for a hefty throw that has a long spin time. Sizes I like are about 54-56mm in diameter and width is good between 42-44mm. Weight is good around 69grams (so to make it hefty). I also like yoyos to have a long spin time. A good example would be the Aviator, that I already have. What would another good one be? Another thing I am looking for is a yoyo that is great for Horizontal. I already have a Shutter and not much can beat that, but what else is good? ---
**Author:** ![sparhawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2014, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-do-i-need/64573/2 "2014-03-12T17:07:02Z")
Yotrick civility and type 1 citrus genesis Checked and there’s also: Heavy Hitter Type S Dolce Noctu Fury Glide If you were open to 57mm diameter it would open up to a lot more choices ---
**Author:** ![NathanC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nathanc/32/891_2.png) [@NathanC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/NathanC)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2014, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-do-i-need/64573/3 "2014-03-12T17:38:04Z")
YYR E=MC^2. It’s a bit smaller diameter than you’re after, but doesn’t feel like it, and is one of the best playing yoyos in that weight ever. ---
**Author:** ![Zorro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zorro/32/206266_2.png) [@Zorro](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zorro)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2014, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-do-i-need/64573/4 "2014-03-12T17:46:07Z")
Okay, I am now open to 57mm in diameter, but what about $80 and under. I also have a Glide. ---
**Author:** ![sparhawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2014, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-do-i-need/64573/5 "2014-03-12T18:54:28Z")
Magnum, freehand AL, Schneider and stealth ogre fit as well now but are all over the $80 mark Also saw the dream-yo lion could check out the illmina and sasquatch even though they’re 68.5 nothing really in that price range that I mentioned just realized the Octave - 1st Gen fits your requirements almost perfectly ---
**Author:** ![sparhawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2014, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-do-i-need/64573/6 "2014-03-13T17:26:54Z")
Diamont Noir just had 3 new throws listed here on yye that fit your preferences ---
**Author:** ![Zorro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zorro/32/206266_2.png) [@Zorro](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zorro)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2014, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-do-i-need/64573/7 "2014-03-13T20:15:33Z")
> [@sparhawk](#): > > Diamont Noir just had 3 new throws listed here on yye that fit your preferences Except the price ---
**Author:** ![sparhawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2014, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-do-i-need/64573/8 "2014-03-13T20:37:19Z")
> [@Zorro](#): > > Except the price I’d say octave 1st gen is gonna be the best choice I’ve heard nothing but praise about that throw ---
**Author:** ![Zorro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zorro/32/206266_2.png) [@Zorro](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zorro)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2014, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-do-i-need/64573/9 "2014-03-13T20:45:23Z")
> [@sparhawk](#): > > I’d say octave 1st gen is gonna be the best choice > > I’ve heard nothing but praise about that throw I believe that is what I’ll get. I know the price is high for me, but how is the old Irony JP (not 2013) ---
**Author:** ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2014, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-do-i-need/64573/10 "2014-03-13T20:59:25Z")
> [@sparhawk](#): > > Yotrick civility Definitely. I don’t have one but connor scholten did a whole 2 minute routine in 1a throw on that. ---
**Author:** ![sparhawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 1:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-do-i-need/64573/11 "2014-03-14T01:02:03Z")
> [@Zorro](#): > > I believe that is what I’ll get. > > I know the price is high for me, but how is the old Irony JP (not 2013) Old school irony jp is awesome with the new one being even better That being said the specs on yye are wrong so I think it’s too big ---
**Author:** ![sparhawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-do-i-need/64573/12 "2014-03-14T21:43:41Z")
Tenyoyo Bebop just got released for $70 and it’s got the diameter and width that you want Just not the weight Still thought it was worth mentioning considering how much hype it has going for it ---
**Author:** ![DrAwesome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/drawesome/32/1139_2.png) [@DrAwesome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DrAwesome)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 10:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-do-i-need/64573/13 "2014-03-14T22:15:41Z")
> [@sparhawk](#): > > Tenyoyo Bebop just got released for $70 and it’s got the diameter and width that you want > > Just not the weight > > Still thought it was worth mentioning considering how much hype it has going for it Releases at ten tonight.