# Vs. Newton YoYo Concepts: Andrew Maider wins MA States!
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/vs-newton-yoyo-concepts-andrew-maider-wins-ma-states/20991
**Category:** Up & Coming Manufacturers
**Created:** [November 18, 2010, 2:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/vs-newton-yoyo-concepts-andrew-maider-wins-ma-states/20991 "2010-11-18T02:11:35Z")
**Posts on this page:** 8
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### Author:  [@Coffelt](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Coffelt)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2012, 12:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/vs-newton-yoyo-concepts-andrew-maider-wins-ma-states/20991/741 "2012-10-03T00:13:35Z")
I believe that statement was what we call misleading.
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### Author:  [@reefyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/reefyo)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2012, 12:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/vs-newton-yoyo-concepts-andrew-maider-wins-ma-states/20991/742 "2012-10-03T00:14:52Z")
I think he meant this is the part of the second auction. The firts one was spent
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### Author:  [@vegabomb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/vegabomb)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2012, 12:17am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/vs-newton-yoyo-concepts-andrew-maider-wins-ma-states/20991/743 "2012-10-03T00:17:15Z")
> [@dryoyo](#):
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> > [@Blake\_Freeman](#):
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> > As a person that was touched by cancer 2 weeks ago, I feel extremely disturbed by this whole situation.
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> > The suggestion that Heath should take his time in paying the money to ACS and not worry about credit card debt is ludicrous. Right the wrong as quickly as possible, whatever means necessary.
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> > I am not interested in slinging mud or calling people out. I’m also not interested in excuses. Do what’s right and accept the consequences of the action.
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> I made that statement under the Understanding that this was the 2nd payment and therefore putting heath a few hundred away from the full balance Which can be resolved in a week without credit or loans. He stated that this was the second payment, but now it looks like it is otherwise? Which is it. Did he start the apology with another lie? If he is 3k out, then his wages need to be garnished by order of a court.
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> I am still confused. How much total has been given total? If this was the only payment, why did he say this was the second?
I can say in no uncertain terms that the donation pictured in this thread is the only one made.
I’m not certain why he called it a “second”.
And yes, a loan or some other quick form of restitution should be done.
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### Author:  [@Ghost8982](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Ghost8982)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2012, 12:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/vs-newton-yoyo-concepts-andrew-maider-wins-ma-states/20991/744 "2012-10-03T00:21:22Z")
I’m confused,
He said he was waiting on someone to make the second donation, which we can see he made. But doesn’t that mean he still owes $4300, not $3000, for the first donation?
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### Author:  [@vegabomb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/vegabomb)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2012, 12:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/vs-newton-yoyo-concepts-andrew-maider-wins-ma-states/20991/745 "2012-10-03T00:23:40Z")
$4300.00 was the grand total. $1150.00 was donated. That leaves a little over $3000.00 that is yet to be donated.
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### Author:  [@dryoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dryoyo)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2012, 12:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/vs-newton-yoyo-concepts-andrew-maider-wins-ma-states/20991/746 "2012-10-03T00:25:14Z")
In that case Vega, i retract my statement and no longer have any grace to give the man. Break out the plastic or go sell plasma
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### Author:  [@ShaunC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ShaunC)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2012, 12:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/vs-newton-yoyo-concepts-andrew-maider-wins-ma-states/20991/747 "2012-10-03T00:30:13Z")
The receipt also says “one time gift”. If it was an ongoing donation, it would say so.
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### Author:  [@jrodriguez](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jrodriguez)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2012, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/vs-newton-yoyo-concepts-andrew-maider-wins-ma-states/20991/748 "2012-10-03T00:34:30Z")
Locked to preserve all of this as evidence.
Please feel free to continue here: [Vs. Newton Charity Issues](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/vs-newton-charity-issues/43516)
Summary for those who haven’t read the whole thread:
1. 2 years ago Heath organized a charity auction for the American Cancer Society
2. People donated yoyos to be anodized and auctioned for this charity - all the money raised through eBay auctions was to be donated to the ACS
3. Instead of donating the money, Heath stole it and spent it on undisclosed personal things
4. Heath then lied for months and months about it
5. Heath finally admitted guilt, but in a weak and ambiguous way, after donating $1150 out of $4300 raised
6. Heath still owes $3150 to the ACS.
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