# VK (ss) and new CZM8 Discussion \[ PROTOTYPE VIDEO \] **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [March 20, 2015, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/vk-ss-and-new-czm8-discussion-prototype-video/73526 "2015-03-20T19:04:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Buggot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/buggot/32/1534_2.png) [@Buggot](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Buggot)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/vk-ss-and-new-czm8-discussion-prototype-video/73526/1 "2015-03-20T19:04:19Z")
Found a video of Vashek playing with either the Bimetal VK (ss) or the other yoyo he is making, it’s labeled: “YoyoFactory Sample” Yoyo seen at 3:45 to 3:55, and 5:48 to about 6:00 [youtube.com/watch?v=Ec-m5wPmKkQ](http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ec-m5wPmKkQ) What do you guys think? I’m excited. From what I see it seems like Vashek’s new yoyo is definitely more stable, because the CZM8 doesn’t seem to move that solidly ---
**Author:** ![888victini](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/888victini/32/1435_2.png) [@888victini](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/888victini)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/vk-ss-and-new-czm8-discussion-prototype-video/73526/2 "2015-03-20T19:39:46Z")
the only thing im hoping for is a longer spin time. i had a CZM8 and it didnt spin well, no matter what bearing i put in it. but regardless, i am still very stoked to try it! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Buggot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/buggot/32/1534_2.png) [@Buggot](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Buggot)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 1:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/vk-ss-and-new-czm8-discussion-prototype-video/73526/3 "2015-03-21T01:54:56Z")
Same. I want the spin time to be longer, but currently I’m not super hating the CZM8 spin time. It’s not too long but not too short either.