# vanguard vs horizon vs too hot vs level 6 vs cyborg 2 **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [December 15, 2015, 12:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/vanguard-vs-horizon-vs-too-hot-vs-level-6-vs-cyborg-2/78389 "2015-12-15T00:09:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![yonim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e47774/32.png) [@yonim](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yonim)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 12:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/vanguard-vs-horizon-vs-too-hot-vs-level-6-vs-cyborg-2/78389/1 "2015-12-15T00:09:03Z")
I’m looking for a new yoyo. I currently own the magic yoyo n12 and m002, and a replay pro. i would would like it to be under $55 but if it goes to 65$ ill deal woth it. i am thinking about horizon, too hot, vangaurd, and possibly cyborg 2 or maybe level 6. any opinions what one do you think is the best ---
**Author:** ![Tolkienfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@Tolkienfan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Tolkienfan)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/vanguard-vs-horizon-vs-too-hot-vs-level-6-vs-cyborg-2/78389/2 "2015-12-15T00:12:09Z")
Look into the aluminum dream or the rally both are nice. Of those I would go with the vanguard. ---
**Author:** ![yonim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e47774/32.png) [@yonim](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yonim)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 12:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/vanguard-vs-horizon-vs-too-hot-vs-level-6-vs-cyborg-2/78389/3 "2015-12-15T00:15:13Z")
rally or vanguard? ---
**Author:** ![Gym\_Kirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Gym\_Kirk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Gym_Kirk)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 12:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/vanguard-vs-horizon-vs-too-hot-vs-level-6-vs-cyborg-2/78389/4 "2015-12-15T00:58:20Z")
> [@yonim](#): > > rally or vanguard? I prefer the Vanguard ---
**Author:** ![saintrobyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/saintrobyn/32/54_2.png) [@saintrobyn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/saintrobyn)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 1:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/vanguard-vs-horizon-vs-too-hot-vs-level-6-vs-cyborg-2/78389/5 "2015-12-15T01:01:55Z")
Vanguard. ---
**Author:** ![yonim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e47774/32.png) [@yonim](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yonim)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 1:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/vanguard-vs-horizon-vs-too-hot-vs-level-6-vs-cyborg-2/78389/6 "2015-12-15T01:02:59Z")
are there any yoyos in the $40 to $60 range that you think are better than the vanguard ---
**Author:** ![Cannon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/919ad9/32.png) [@Cannon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Cannon)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 1:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/vanguard-vs-horizon-vs-too-hot-vs-level-6-vs-cyborg-2/78389/7 "2015-12-15T01:04:53Z")
It depends on your play style. I think an overall really good yoyo is the too hot. ---
**Author:** ![GoCrazyForYoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gocrazyforyoyo/32/7941_2.png) [@GoCrazyForYoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GoCrazyForYoyo)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 1:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/vanguard-vs-horizon-vs-too-hot-vs-level-6-vs-cyborg-2/78389/8 "2015-12-15T01:06:11Z")
They’re all so different… ---
**Author:** ![yonim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e47774/32.png) [@yonim](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yonim)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 1:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/vanguard-vs-horizon-vs-too-hot-vs-level-6-vs-cyborg-2/78389/9 "2015-12-15T01:28:15Z")
do you think i should get the too hot over the vanguard whats better ---
**Author:** ![creature212](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/creature212/32/7948_2.png) [@creature212](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/creature212)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 2:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/vanguard-vs-horizon-vs-too-hot-vs-level-6-vs-cyborg-2/78389/10 "2015-12-15T02:26:36Z")
I’ve tried all those except the vanguard. I love my Too Hot it’s definitely one of my favorites, but can’t say anything about vanguard. ---
**Author:** ![yonim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e47774/32.png) [@yonim](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yonim)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 2:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/vanguard-vs-horizon-vs-too-hot-vs-level-6-vs-cyborg-2/78389/11 "2015-12-15T02:53:30Z")
Any one else have anything to say? Too hot or vanguard? ---
**Author:** ![mysteriousyoyoer\_par](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@mysteriousyoyoer\_par](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mysteriousyoyoer_par)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/vanguard-vs-horizon-vs-too-hot-vs-level-6-vs-cyborg-2/78389/12 "2015-12-15T09:41:47Z")
Cyborg 2.0 da best. ---
**Author:** ![saintrobyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/saintrobyn/32/54_2.png) [@saintrobyn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/saintrobyn)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/vanguard-vs-horizon-vs-too-hot-vs-level-6-vs-cyborg-2/78389/13 "2015-12-15T10:53:16Z")
> [@yonim](#): > > are there any yoyos in the $40 to $60 range that you think are better than the vanguard I have not played any of the others on your list so I had to vote what I know. 🙂 I just got a Vanguard in for review and it plays amazingly well, especially at the price point. ---
**Author:** ![GoCrazyForYoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gocrazyforyoyo/32/7941_2.png) [@GoCrazyForYoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GoCrazyForYoyo)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/vanguard-vs-horizon-vs-too-hot-vs-level-6-vs-cyborg-2/78389/14 "2015-12-16T19:22:21Z")
The Vanguard plays incredibly well regardless of price point. ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/vanguard-vs-horizon-vs-too-hot-vs-level-6-vs-cyborg-2/78389/15 "2015-12-16T20:00:35Z")
The TooHOT also plays incredibly well at any price point. I almost got one instead of an Isotope2 one day. Played them back to back and was like, “Yeah, I prefer the TooHOT”. …and then later, walked out with a Nomad that day… But regretted not getting a TooHOT! So I ordered one within a week. And I’ve had it and played it regularly ever since. – No idea bout the Vanguard.