# Update of the Changes of the Changes of the "Cadence" **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [March 17, 2011, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/update-of-the-changes-of-the-changes-of-the-cadence/24742 "2011-03-17T00:07:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![druminpython](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/druminpython/32/57_2.png) [@druminpython](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/druminpython)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/update-of-the-changes-of-the-changes-of-the-cadence/24742/1 "2011-03-17T00:07:54Z")
Hey guys, here are the changes I made since the last update. I tried to incorperate some of the feedback you gave me. Check it out: :wink: Before ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/4/2/5/425d15d7eb16e9d0d7bc716e8559ad4c2a8fbb3d.jpeg) After ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/e/f/cefb828ce6168dd75667a0c0f7d620556ee49129.jpeg) Before ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/2/8/9/289fc106c7fcf4a582c72cebc6461e021e9e09f9.jpeg) After ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/1/e/7/1e7adbefb6577fd932fa8889b37b675d754abb93.jpeg) specs ( may change slightly after going through my machinist) weight: 65-66g width: 44mm dia: 56mm gap width: 4.5mm c bearing flowgroove pad Also, this does not show the hex nut inlay, I never really put that in until the end (it disappears whenever you try to change something) tell me what you think! -Matt ---
**Author:** ![Kristiawan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kristiawan/32/366_2.png) [@Kristiawan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Kristiawan)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 12:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/update-of-the-changes-of-the-changes-of-the-cadence/24742/2 "2011-03-17T00:20:17Z")
Thats look like a kahiji from revyolution, which i really love, and i think i would like this yoyo too. and with your hex nut axle, this would be awesome. and if i might sugest, you might want to rounded the edge a little bit. My kahiji has a very similar shape at the rim, and kinda hurt if it smack you. great job btw. . . ---
**Author:** ![patrickcondon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/patrickcondon/32/619950_2.png) [@patrickcondon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/patrickcondon)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/update-of-the-changes-of-the-changes-of-the-cadence/24742/3 "2011-03-17T17:11:27Z")
From the looks of it, it doesn’t look like it would really spin right. I’d add more beef to the actual rims and narrow the catch area. ---
**Author:** ![zerrubabbel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zerrubabbel/32/592_2.png) [@zerrubabbel](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zerrubabbel)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/update-of-the-changes-of-the-changes-of-the-cadence/24742/4 "2011-03-17T18:46:00Z")
This looks exactly like what I’m looking for! ---
**Author:** ![Xdohl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/xdohl/32/12_2.png) [@Xdohl](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Xdohl)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/update-of-the-changes-of-the-changes-of-the-cadence/24742/5 "2011-03-17T19:48:43Z")
> [@patrickcondon](#): > > From the looks of it, it doesn’t look like it would really spin right. I’d add more beef to the actual rims and narrow the catch area. I disagree. I like my yoyos to be catchable. This one doesn’t look so easy to grab right now. ---
**Author:** ![patrickcondon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/patrickcondon/32/619950_2.png) [@patrickcondon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/patrickcondon)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/update-of-the-changes-of-the-changes-of-the-cadence/24742/6 "2011-03-18T10:34:39Z")
And I like my yoyos to spin for a respectable amount of time. I’m not saying it has to be “ouch” shaped… In fact, I’m not saying anything becasue it’s not my design and therefore not my choice. ---
**Author:** ![druminpython](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/druminpython/32/57_2.png) [@druminpython](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/druminpython)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2011, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/update-of-the-changes-of-the-changes-of-the-cadence/24742/7 "2011-03-19T22:21:58Z")
UPDATE! ;D ---
**Author:** ![Kristiawan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kristiawan/32/366_2.png) [@Kristiawan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Kristiawan)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2011, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/update-of-the-changes-of-the-changes-of-the-cadence/24742/8 "2011-03-21T14:34:40Z")
less lethal IMO. 8) i like that shape a lot better, actually hoping some company make that kinda yoyo with that kinda spec. i might snatch one if it’s readily available. if i got the money that is… ;D nice yoyo, but i think you need a little bit more rim weight… ---
**Author:** ![YoyoGeezer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyogeezer/32/755_2.png) [@YoyoGeezer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoyoGeezer)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2011, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/update-of-the-changes-of-the-changes-of-the-cadence/24742/9 "2011-03-21T14:54:37Z")
Are the “Before” and “After” pictures labeled correctly? ---
**Author:** ![Kristiawan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kristiawan/32/366_2.png) [@Kristiawan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Kristiawan)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2011, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/update-of-the-changes-of-the-changes-of-the-cadence/24742/10 "2011-03-21T15:19:59Z")
> [@YoyoGeezer](#): > > Are the “Before” and “After” pictures labeled correctly? yes, i guess, if you are following this thread from the beginning that is. although i might mistaken… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![YoyoGeezer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyogeezer/32/755_2.png) [@YoyoGeezer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoyoGeezer)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2011, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/update-of-the-changes-of-the-changes-of-the-cadence/24742/11 "2011-03-21T18:02:49Z")
> [@Kristiawan](#): > > > [@YoyoGeezer](#): > > > > Are the “Before” and “After” pictures labeled correctly? > > yes, i guess, if you are following this thread from the beginning that is. > although i might mistaken… 🙂 So, the "after"shape is more sharp on the edges than the “Before”? I thought every one was complaining about the sharp edges. The “After” pictures have edges that make me hurt to just look at them. Plus, there is very little rim-weight on the “After” pictures. I like the “Before” yoyo much more. The “After” you is way too sharp on the edges and seems to concentrate weight in the center and less on the rims. ---
**Author:** ![zerrubabbel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zerrubabbel/32/592_2.png) [@zerrubabbel](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zerrubabbel)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2011, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/update-of-the-changes-of-the-changes-of-the-cadence/24742/12 "2011-03-21T19:10:59Z")
Try with severe like rims… ---
**Author:** ![druminpython](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/druminpython/32/57_2.png) [@druminpython](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/druminpython)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2011, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/update-of-the-changes-of-the-changes-of-the-cadence/24742/13 "2011-03-21T22:06:53Z")
Let me clarify, I made this thread with the Before pictures. these were the original changes (forgot to change the title) the after pictures are the changes of the changes. ---
**Author:** ![druminpython](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/druminpython/32/57_2.png) [@druminpython](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/druminpython)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2011, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/update-of-the-changes-of-the-changes-of-the-cadence/24742/14 "2011-03-21T22:09:54Z")
as for the rim weight, ive got (what I believe to be) plenty there, besides, I am trying to keep a nice little chunk there in the middle for stability reasons. ---
**Author:** ![DG1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dg1/32/606_2.png) [@DG1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DG1)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2011, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/update-of-the-changes-of-the-changes-of-the-cadence/24742/15 "2011-03-21T22:25:01Z")
Do you know the exact weight, or are you going off of a guess? Anyway, looks interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Kristiawan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kristiawan/32/366_2.png) [@Kristiawan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Kristiawan)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/update-of-the-changes-of-the-changes-of-the-cadence/24742/16 "2011-03-22T16:32:49Z")
> [@YoyoGeezer](#): > > I thought every one was complaining about the sharp edges. The “After” pictures have edges that make me hurt to just look at them. Plus, there is very little rim-weight on the “After” pictures. i think it’s not that very angular shape, it’s more to the 90 degree cut after the bubbly outer rim to the inner face of the yoyo, that could hurt you. i have a kahiji with very similar cut at the rim, and it hurt if i don’t catch it the right way. as for the angular shape, i don’t think it would be uncomfortable to catch, almost like phenom or sleipnir, angular, but still comfy to catch. > [@druminpython](#): > > as for the rim weight, ive got (what I believe to be) plenty there, besides, I am trying to keep a nice little chunk there in the middle for stability reasons. nice to hear it, make me really excited about… ---
**Author:** ![YoyoGeezer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyogeezer/32/755_2.png) [@YoyoGeezer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoyoGeezer)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/update-of-the-changes-of-the-changes-of-the-cadence/24742/17 "2011-03-22T21:26:27Z")
> [@Kristiawan](#): > > > [@YoyoGeezer](#): > > > > I thought every one was complaining about the sharp edges. The “After” pictures have edges that make me hurt to just look at them. Plus, there is very little rim-weight on the “After” pictures. > > i think it’s not that very angular shape, it’s more to the 90 degree cut after the bubbly outer rim to the inner face of the yoyo, that could hurt you. > i have a kahiji with very similar cut at the rim, and it hurt if i don’t catch it the right way. > > as for the angular shape, i don’t think it would be uncomfortable to catch, almost like phenom or sleipnir, angular, but still comfy to catch. > > > [@druminpython](#): > > > > as for the rim weight, ive got (what I believe to be) plenty there, besides, I am trying to keep a nice little chunk there in the middle for stability reasons. > > nice to hear it, make me really excited about… I have a Phenom. While it is an amazingly smooth, stable yoyo; “Comfy” is not a word I would use to describe it. The CLYW Gnarwhal has a shape that I would call “Comfy”. Still open and angular, but the rims are rounded and wide enough to spread the impact out on a sharp bind.