# Upcoming YoYo Company **URL:** \ **Category:** Up & Coming Manufacturers\ **Created:** [April 28, 2015, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/upcoming-yoyo-company/74317 "2015-04-28T12:33:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dragonnoah122](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dec6dc/32.png) [@dragonnoah122](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dragonnoah122)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2015, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/upcoming-yoyo-company/74317/1 "2015-04-28T12:33:23Z")
Hey guys, I’m Noah Sherman, and I have just recently started a YoYo company, Stellar Spins. We have found a manufacturer and everything is going Great! Except we don’t have all the funds we need, That’s why we started a KickStarter, We would really love if you guys could check it out, i will post the link below. Thanks So Much Please Read Up and Coming Manufacturer Rules Before Posting Links. Thanks, Garrett ---
**Author:** ![Zorro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zorro/32/206266_2.png) [@Zorro](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zorro)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2015, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/upcoming-yoyo-company/74317/2 "2015-04-28T12:36:12Z")
uh-oh… ---
**Author:** ![Erik\_kerber](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/erik_kerber/32/7939_2.png) [@Erik\_kerber](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Erik_kerber)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2015, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/upcoming-yoyo-company/74317/3 "2015-04-28T14:00:25Z")
> [@Zorro](#): > > uh-oh… This may start a ton of arguing especially since he made 3 duplicate topics of it. That will irritate some people. ughhhhh This is not gonna be good. Best of luck with your company but brace for impact because there are some people on here that are gonna flame you for it. ---
**Author:** ![Zorro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zorro/32/206266_2.png) [@Zorro](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zorro)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2015, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/upcoming-yoyo-company/74317/4 "2015-04-28T15:32:55Z")
> [@Erik\_kerber](#): > > This may start a ton of arguing especially since he made 3 duplicate topics of it. That will irritate some people. ughhhhh This is not gonna be good. > > Best of luck with your company but brace for impact because there are some people on here that are gonna flame you for it. Yes, and I am talking from experience. I tried something like this and it went downhill fast… ---
**Author:** ![Capes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/capes/32/1308_2.png) [@Capes](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Capes)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2015, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/upcoming-yoyo-company/74317/5 "2015-04-28T23:04:20Z")
Just a tip: you should probably provide an itemized breakdown of the $20k you’re asking for. Or at least a link to a PDF breakdown. ---
**Author:** ![dragonnoah122](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dec6dc/32.png) [@dragonnoah122](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dragonnoah122)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2015, 11:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/upcoming-yoyo-company/74317/6 "2015-04-28T23:22:22Z")
$10,000 goes to the YoYo mold, and the other 10,000 goes to material funding ---
**Author:** ![abby1371](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/abby1371/32/1075_2.png) [@abby1371](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/abby1371)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2015, 12:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/upcoming-yoyo-company/74317/7 "2015-04-29T00:15:18Z")
> [@dragonnoah122](#): > > $10,000 goes to the YoYo mold, and the other 10,000 goes to material funding hmmmm that doesn’t seem to make sense, because several yoyo companies have started making yoyos with much less money other than $20,000. ---
**Author:** ![Capes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/capes/32/1308_2.png) [@Capes](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Capes)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2015, 1:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/upcoming-yoyo-company/74317/8 "2015-04-29T01:21:45Z")
Is this mold for a plastic? ---
**Author:** ![Erik\_kerber](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/erik_kerber/32/7939_2.png) [@Erik\_kerber](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Erik_kerber)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2015, 3:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/upcoming-yoyo-company/74317/9 "2015-04-29T03:29:18Z")
> [@Capes](#): > > Is this mold for a plastic? Sounds like it… ---
**Author:** ![kyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/df705f/32.png) [@kyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kyo)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2015, 5:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/upcoming-yoyo-company/74317/10 "2015-04-29T05:44:40Z")
You haven’t given us any information… like at all. Material - aluminum, titanium, plastic, brass, unobtanium? Size? Weight? What’s your background? machining? engineering? any yo-yo experience at all even? We have no idea who you are. Right now you’re the same as the guy on the corner begging for change… I have absolutely no reason to give you any. Convince us. Kyle ---
**Author:** ![shen703](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shen703/32/924_2.png) [@shen703](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/shen703)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2015, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/upcoming-yoyo-company/74317/11 "2015-04-29T11:20:49Z")
A yoyo company requires about $[insert secret money value here] to get a run of 40 aluminum yoyo’s anodized, boxed, and bearings and pads. Don’t tell me you want $20,000, unless it’s super long term. In the mean time, maybe make your goal $2000, or something a bit less. Yoyo companies aren’t built in a day. ---
**Author:** ![Zorro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zorro/32/206266_2.png) [@Zorro](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zorro)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2015, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/upcoming-yoyo-company/74317/12 "2015-04-29T12:20:42Z")
> [@shen703](#): > > A yoyo company requires about $[insert secret money value here] to get a run of 40 aluminum yoyo’s anodized, boxed, and bearings and pads. Don’t tell me you want $20,000, unless it’s super long term. In the mean time, maybe make your goal $2000, or something a bit less. Yoyo companies aren’t built in a day. For 50 yoyos with the manufacturer we are using and all the stuff we want, it will be around $2500 to make. That would mean if used the same stuff as us, you are trying to make 400 yoyos. ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2015, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/upcoming-yoyo-company/74317/13 "2015-04-29T13:03:33Z")
It is implied that they want to do injection-molded, but clear information would be better. The CAD seems to show a yoyo with thicknesses better suited for aluminum, not injection molding. So yeah, overall it’s pretty confusing. ---
**Author:** ![Erik\_kerber](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/erik_kerber/32/7939_2.png) [@Erik\_kerber](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Erik_kerber)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2015, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/upcoming-yoyo-company/74317/14 "2015-04-29T13:16:31Z")
> [@GregP](#): > > It is implied that they want to do injection-molded, but clear information would be better. The CAD seems to show a yoyo with thicknesses better suited for aluminum, not injection molding. So yeah, overall it’s pretty confusing. Yea… Is there a way to unfollow this thread before the fighting starts? ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2015, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/upcoming-yoyo-company/74317/15 "2015-04-29T13:42:51Z")
> [@Erik\_kerber](#): > > Yea… Is there a way to unfollow this thread before the fighting starts? I don’t think so now that we’ve commented. :wink: ---
**Author:** ![yooldman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yooldman/32/1213_2.png) [@yooldman](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yooldman)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2015, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/upcoming-yoyo-company/74317/16 "2015-04-29T14:01:40Z")
> [@Erik\_kerber](#): > > Yea… Is there a way to unfollow this thread before the fighting starts? Just click the notify button and say “OK” to the question “do you want to disable notification for this thread.” Now I’m going to take my own advice. ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2015, 2:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/upcoming-yoyo-company/74317/17 "2015-04-29T14:03:36Z")
I definitely did not use the correct term. I don’t get email notifications, it just appears in my “Show new replies to your posts.” I was totally not clear about the sense in which I’m now stuck to this thread. Haha! ---
**Author:** ![Erik\_kerber](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/erik_kerber/32/7939_2.png) [@Erik\_kerber](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Erik_kerber)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2015, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/upcoming-yoyo-company/74317/18 "2015-04-29T14:16:30Z")
> [@GregP](#): > > I definitely did not use the correct term. I don’t get email notifications, it just appears in my “Show new replies to your posts.” I was totally not clear about the sense in which I’m now stuck to this thread. Haha! Yea that’s what I do to I might just look at every thread but this and then hit mark all messages as read. ---
**Author:** ![DKiminator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e19b73/32.png) [@DKiminator](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DKiminator)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2015, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/upcoming-yoyo-company/74317/19 "2015-04-30T18:14:53Z")
Here we gooooooooooo. Anyways, what Steve said earlier applies here perfectly. Five Things You Should Do If You Are Starting A New YoYo Company 1. Shut up. Seriously, do not announce that you intend to do anything. Just start doing it. Give yourself ample time to figure it out. It’s harder than you think, guaranteed, and you are going to screw up more than you are going to do right. The louder you are at the beginning, the bigger the audience you are building for your most spectacular failures. Once you actually have something legit to show, THEN start making noise. 2. Under promise so you can over-deliver. You think it’s gonna take a month to get that production run out the door? Tell everyone it will be ready in two months. Are you packaging it with cool extras? Say NOTHING about them until you can show them. Better yet, don’t tell anyone and let them show up with the product as a pleasant surprise. Over-promising and then nothing working out is the fastest way to kill consumer confidence and lose fans before you even have any. 3. Shut up. Seriously. I know, it’s exciting to start a new thing and you wanna tell everyone about it but trust me, you’re better off getting 10x further along than you think you need to be before you say a darn word. 4. Have a story. Don’t just jump out the gate with “We have a name, does anyone want to make a logo for us we’ll give you a free yoyo if they turn out LOL”. Have a plan. Have a visual identity, or at least the plan for one. Here’s a great exercise: turn your brand into a person. What to they wear? What do they eat? How do they talk? What music do they like? What movies do they like? Figure out exactly what your brand should look like from all possible angles before you say one single word publicly from that brand. 5. Plan to fail. Just because that machine shop makes everything else for everyone else doesn’t mean there isn’t a problem with your design. Just because that anodizer does everything else for everyone else doesn’t mean they won’t screw up yours. Expect catastrophe, have a backup plan, and if you followed steps 1 and 3 you don’t have anything to apologize for yet. We need information. It’s not a good idea to come out of nowhere and say “I’m starting a yoyo company, and I need $20,000” EDIT: I think I know him from instagram. He’s under the age of 18 for sure, so I don’t think he has any background with engineering or machining. EDIT #2: here is his instagram. [http://instagram.com/noah\_yoyo\_](http://instagram.com/noah_yoyo_) ---
**Author:** ![Zorro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zorro/32/206266_2.png) [@Zorro](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zorro)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2015, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/upcoming-yoyo-company/74317/20 "2015-04-30T19:15:30Z")
^I was actually about to do that. [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/upcoming-yoyo-company/74317.md?page=2)