# Unresponsive undersized suggestions for small handed kid? **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [January 25, 2022, 3:57am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-undersized-suggestions-for-small-handed-kid/351326 "2022-01-25T03:57:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Xanadu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/xanadu/32/84910_2.png) [@Xanadu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Xanadu)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2022, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-undersized-suggestions-for-small-handed-kid/351326/21 "2022-01-25T18:31:47Z")
Alternatively, if you want to get her a solid metal yoyo, I would probably recommend the GenXS. It’s an older model and I actually haven’t had a chance to try it yet but I love the Genesis and this is a pocket version of it. I also love love love the Metal Arrow, which is also a pocket Genesis variant, but it is no longer available. I worry that the 45 won’t have enough string presence or spin power to be helpful for someone learning. The h-shape of the Genesis is very stable and powerful, so I imagine that the GenXS would lend to this as well. This shape is also very comfortable and catchable. That’s my 2 cents. Enjoy! > **[GenXs](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/genxs-yoyo-by-yoyofactory?variant=15874753298506)** > > First released in the 2018 Winter Mystery Box, the GenXs is an impressive little throw that can compete with the big guys! After dozens of recent requests for pocket throws YoYoFactory knew they needed to create something special for their fans. The... ---
**Author:** ![bheinz63](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bheinz63/32/137310_2.png) [@bheinz63](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bheinz63)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2022, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-undersized-suggestions-for-small-handed-kid/351326/22 "2022-01-25T18:46:56Z")
The reviews of the 44 all seem to say it punches way above its weight class in terms of playability and stability, I would expect the 45 to follow suit. > [@Extreme lightweight design from YYF - The 44!](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/extreme-lightweight-design-from-yyf-the-44/341284/): > > YoYoFactory 44: The latest release from YoYoFactory takes lightweight to a new extreme - This is the all new 44! Talk about punching above its weight! Weighing in at 44gm this spritely player offers a new perspective on tricks while smashing weight expectations. Fast, nimble, and perfectly pocket sized - It has all you need for a GREAT playing experience. Proudly Designed in Chandler, Machined in Mesa, Annodized in Phoenix and all finishi… The GenXs is really similar in size/weight to the Snack, which plays very heavy and comes bck to the hand really hard. ---
**Author:** ![Xanadu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/xanadu/32/84910_2.png) [@Xanadu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Xanadu)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2022, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-undersized-suggestions-for-small-handed-kid/351326/23 "2022-01-25T18:56:06Z")
Fair, I’m still skeptical of recommending an ultra light yoyo for a young beginner, because although fun, they are harder to control and are really zippy. These are things that an experienced player can appreciate but I feel could be a source of frustration for a beginner. I have a G2 GBP, weighing in at 48 grams and is a bi-metal which adds a more solid presence. It’s fun but I wouldn’t recommend it for a new player for the reasons that I have already mentioned above. ---
**Author:** ![bheinz63](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bheinz63/32/137310_2.png) [@bheinz63](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bheinz63)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2022, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-undersized-suggestions-for-small-handed-kid/351326/24 "2022-01-25T19:18:52Z")
Your response brought up some points I hadn’t really thought of. My concern with the Snack/GenXs is the weight makes them little rocks. Maybe its not an issue with smol hands that cant even throw as hard? ---
**Author:** ![ChrisFrancz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/chrisfrancz/32/48992_2.png) [@ChrisFrancz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ChrisFrancz)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2022, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-undersized-suggestions-for-small-handed-kid/351326/25 "2022-01-25T19:27:39Z")
I have both. I think with a shorter string they’d feel even heavier. I ---
**Author:** ![Xanadu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/xanadu/32/84910_2.png) [@Xanadu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Xanadu)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2022, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-undersized-suggestions-for-small-handed-kid/351326/26 "2022-01-25T19:44:31Z")
Fair fair, one thing that I hadn’t considered is that the diameter of the 44 and 45 is only ~47mm, which will significantly change how the weight will impact it. So maybe it will feel more controllable at this size? ---
**Author:** ![Xanadu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/xanadu/32/84910_2.png) [@Xanadu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Xanadu)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2022, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-undersized-suggestions-for-small-handed-kid/351326/27 "2022-01-25T19:56:37Z")
Okay I concede @bheinz63, the YYF 44 or 45 may be good options. I don’t own either so I can’t comment on their play suitability. But the need for a smaller yoyo may work well with these designs. Just looking at the design elements, I would say that the 44 is likely to withstand more abuse than the 45. Edit: I do still think that the YYF Whip could also be a good option, though it is bigger in diameter than the 44 or 45 (which is funny because I think of it as quite small). Thinking of me as an 8 year old, the Whip will handle being smashed into concrete over and over again. :joy: ---
**Author:** ![bheinz63](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bheinz63/32/137310_2.png) [@bheinz63](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bheinz63)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2022, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-undersized-suggestions-for-small-handed-kid/351326/28 "2022-01-25T20:03:06Z")
I still 100% agree with you on the Whip suggestion. They’re readily available at Hobby Lobby, and other brick/mortar stores and basically bullet proof. ---
**Author:** ![CaptainFoxxButt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captainfoxxbutt/32/197384_2.png) [@CaptainFoxxButt](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/CaptainFoxxButt)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2022, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-undersized-suggestions-for-small-handed-kid/351326/29 "2022-01-25T20:44:50Z")
![16431434132743970724987191431222](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/6/4/7/647297048bb5de60713f839293092b945af3e30d.jpeg) The rebirth is growing on me, actually an amazing throw. If you dont mind spendin a little more ---
**Author:** ![Yoyobob123321](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyobob123321/32/146914_2.png) [@Yoyobob123321](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyobob123321)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-undersized-suggestions-for-small-handed-kid/351326/30 "2022-01-26T17:41:27Z")
I would say the yotricks arcade ---
**Author:** ![therman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dc4da7/32.png) [@therman](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/therman)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2022, 4:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-undersized-suggestions-for-small-handed-kid/351326/31 "2022-01-27T04:08:20Z")
I ordered a 45, so will update once we have some experience with it. She switched over to a Sage in the meantime which is better than the Crystal for her so far. ---
**Author:** ![Cannon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/919ad9/32.png) [@Cannon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Cannon)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2022, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-undersized-suggestions-for-small-handed-kid/351326/32 "2022-01-27T05:26:34Z")
This would be an amazing way to go. Comfortable and small. Take the stacks off if you want a bit less weight. It’s only $20 for a metal yoyo. Truly amazing ---
**Author:** ![Buzz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/buzz/32/126269_2.png) [@Buzz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Buzz)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2022, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-undersized-suggestions-for-small-handed-kid/351326/33 "2022-01-27T21:13:19Z")
Obviously too late, but throw in the iyoyo passion anyways. Got one for my 9yr old boys. Awesome throw! ---
**Author:** ![evildipper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/evildipper/32/141620_2.png) [@evildipper](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/evildipper)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2022, 3:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-undersized-suggestions-for-small-handed-kid/351326/34 "2022-01-28T03:20:32Z")
My 7 yr old daughter stole my nekyo Recess First Base and is killing it without issue, despite a shorter string due to her being a tiny human. Kids are quick to adapt to things. She also loves the kitty + glitter. She started out with YYF throws but wanted more power. Her One Drop Deep State NQP in broken hearts colors is also on her shelf but used less often at moment. 5 yr old boy is jealous and is still working on basics with his YYF throws to get his upgrade. ---
**Author:** ![therman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dc4da7/32.png) [@therman](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/therman)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2022, 3:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-undersized-suggestions-for-small-handed-kid/351326/35 "2022-01-28T03:42:19Z")
I want a First Base for ME, but can’t find one anywhere. ---
**Author:** ![therman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dc4da7/32.png) [@therman](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/therman)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2022, 5:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-undersized-suggestions-for-small-handed-kid/351326/36 "2022-01-31T05:24:44Z")
45 arrived and she is in love with it. Fits her tiny hands perfectly and I can very easily do finger spins on it. Has a weird hollow sound due to the thin metal and plastic caps, but aside from any thinly veiled political messaging it is perfect for her. Surprisingly stable and long spinning for the weight and great for tiny hands. ---
**Author:** ![yyfben2.deactivated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ccd318/32.png) [@yyfben2.deactivated](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yyfben2.deactivated)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2022, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-undersized-suggestions-for-small-handed-kid/351326/37 "2022-01-31T08:43:36Z")
45 is 45gm and $45. 44 was 44gm and $44. The thin part wasn’t thin enough, we were aiming for 44, like the 44 & 444 before it. ---
**Author:** ![bheinz63](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bheinz63/32/137310_2.png) [@bheinz63](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bheinz63)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2022, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-undersized-suggestions-for-small-handed-kid/351326/38 "2022-01-31T19:27:59Z")
Really happy to hear the 45 worked out so well for you and your daughter \<3 ---
**Author:** ![Ch\_yoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ch_yoyos/32/182819_2.png) [@Ch\_yoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Ch_yoyos)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-undersized-suggestions-for-small-handed-kid/351326/39 "2022-02-23T20:21:18Z")
the snack is sold out but here is another great option > **[Valley](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/valley-yoyo-by-good-life-yoyos?variant=37557490876606)** > > From Good Life: We started working on the Valley quite some time ago in 2018. The idea was to make a yoyo for Chris that was outside the “cookie cutter” realm of shapes for yoyos today. He wanted his signature model to hold up for competitive play... [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-undersized-suggestions-for-small-handed-kid/351326.md?page=1)