# Unresponsive play problems! **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Mods and Maintenance\ **Created:** [March 30, 2011, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-play-problems/25145 "2011-03-30T23:33:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ViscosityHD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/87869e/32.png) [@ViscosityHD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ViscosityHD)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-play-problems/25145/1 "2011-03-30T23:33:44Z")
So lately I have been throwing my legacy a lot because it WAS my only completely unresponsive Yoyo next to my grind machine that I don’t tend to use so much because it never spins long enough, but back to the point my Legacy started to make a lot of noise. So my being my dumb self I took WD-40 and put some on the bearing. Then it was quiet again. BUT it was completely RESPONSIVE! I could just give it a slight tug and it would come right back to my hand with no bind at all. \>:( So then I put water on it and it made it worse so I turned on the compressor and blew all of the stuff inside of the bearing out. And now it is still slightly responsive. Any idea on how to make completely unresponsive? Also i got the same idea going with my Dark Magic. Ever since I had it, it has been responsive! I hate it! Anybody know how I can make my Legacy and Dark Magic completely unresponsive? ??? Thanks for taking the time to read this. I really appreciate it. ---
**Author:** ![Kristiawan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kristiawan/32/366_2.png) [@Kristiawan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Kristiawan)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 12:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-play-problems/25145/2 "2011-03-31T00:02:54Z")
Try cleaning the bearing. you can find how to in the maintenence section on this forum. and bearing would be noisy in time, it’s normal. ---
**Author:** ![skeletonboy333](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b2d939/32.png) [@skeletonboy333](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skeletonboy333)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 4:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-play-problems/25145/3 "2011-03-31T04:54:03Z")
O.K. I might have the time to correct you: 1. NEVER use WD-40 on your bearings 2. NEVER contact your bearing with water And that’s exactly what you did. But clean your bearing (you can find how in other threads) and buy YYJ ThinLube or sewing machine oil will do. So you put a drop of lube on a sewing needle and dip the needle on the bearing, causing the TINY drop of lube on the needle to go on the balls of the bearing. You need to play your yoyo 1-3 weeks to make it fully unresponsive when lubed. ---
**Author:** ![hadoq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hadoq/32/688_2.png) [@hadoq](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hadoq)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-play-problems/25145/4 "2011-03-31T10:05:53Z")
google would have been your friend beforehand, that’s how I figured out WD40 is not good for yoyo bearings (even tho EVERYONE around me were telling me it was, so sometimes EVERYONE can be wrong) If I recall right, WD40 has some water and lube in it, you don’t want water because of the rust (unless it’s a stainless steel bearing such as one drop 10 balls), and you don’t want lube because it makes it responsive. so if there’s a lesson to learn here it’s: don’t assume you know, always make sure you do it right before you start anything. in that case, a few seconds [google search](http://lmgtfy.com/?q=yoyo+bearing+WD40) would have saved you from buying a new bearing online, waiting for the mail etc… (I guess you could try and get back your current ones tho) ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-play-problems/25145/5 "2011-03-31T14:44:18Z")
Once again… WD40 will not harm your bearings. It doesn’t contain water. It is a Water Displacer. Hence the name WD40. “WD-40 Lubricates, Cleans, Protects, Penetrates & Displaces Moisture” > **[WD-40 Lubricants, Degreasers & Rust Removal Products | WD-40](https://www.wd40.com/)** > > For over 50 years, people have relied on WD-40 to protect metal from rust and corrosion. Explore our lubricants, penetrating oils, cleaners and rust removal products. WD-40 is perfect for big and small jobs that require protection from rust and... > **[WD-40](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WD-40)** > > WD-40 is an American brand and the trademark of a penetrating oil manufactured by the WD-40 Company based in San Diego, California. Its formula was invented for the Rocket Chemical Company in 1953, before it became the WD-40 Company. WD-40 became available as a commercial product in 1961. It acts as a lubricant, rust preventive, penetrant and moisture displacer. There are specialized products that perform better than WD-40 in many of these uses, but WD-40's flexibility has given it fame as It ... > [@](#): > > The long-term active ingredient is a non-volatile, viscous oil which remains on the surface, providing lubrication and protection from moisture. This is diluted with a volatile hydrocarbon to give a low viscosity fluid which can be sprayed and thus penetrate crevices. The volatile hydrocarbon then evaporates, leaving the oil behind. A propellant (originally a low-molecular weight hydrocarbon, now carbon dioxide) provides gas pressure in the can to force the liquid through the spray nozzle, then itself diffuses away. Take some time to go to the proper sources for your information. Let’s lay this myth to rest. ---
**Author:** ![chuckflash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@chuckflash](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/chuckflash)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-play-problems/25145/6 "2011-03-31T14:50:59Z")
buy some YYJ thin lube. ---
**Author:** ![d42kn355](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/d42kn355/32/829_2.png) [@d42kn355](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/d42kn355)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-play-problems/25145/7 "2011-03-31T20:00:08Z")
> **[How to Clean Your YoYo Bearing](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/forums/index.php/topic,871.0.html)** > > How to Clean Your YoYo Bearing! ⚠ WARNING: THE CHEMICALS USED IN THIS PROCESS ARE DANGEROUS. EXPOSURE HAS BEEN LINKED TO SERIOUS HEALTH PROBLEMS. USE THEM ONLY OUTDOORS OR IN A WELL VENTILATED AREA. THESE CHEMICALS ARE HIGHLY FLAMMABLE. IF YOU... ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-play-problems/25145/8 "2011-03-31T20:57:56Z")
> [@jhb8426](#): > > Once again… > > WD40 will not harm your bearings. It doesn’t contain water. It is a Water Displacer. Hence the name WD40. > > “WD-40 Lubricates, Cleans, Protects, Penetrates & Displaces Moisture” > [http://www.wd40.com/](http://www.wd40.com/) > > [WD-40 - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WD-40) > > > [@](#): > > > > The long-term active ingredient is a non-volatile, viscous oil which remains on the surface, providing lubrication and protection from moisture. This is diluted with a volatile hydrocarbon to give a low viscosity fluid which can be sprayed and thus penetrate crevices. The volatile hydrocarbon then evaporates, leaving the oil behind. A propellant (originally a low-molecular weight hydrocarbon, now carbon dioxide) provides gas pressure in the can to force the liquid through the spray nozzle, then itself diffuses away. > > Take some time to go to the proper sources for your information. > > Let’s lay this myth to rest. I’ll one better you Jhb. I have a bearing that I’ve been testing at least for 3 years. Kyo told a lot of people that it’s bad for bearings but it’s not. Mine is still an excellent bearing. Problem is you need to really take care of it when you use wd40. It does displace water perfectly BUT is does evaporate almost clean with no residue. This means that humidity can sneak in it and ruin it easily. Places with high humidity I do not suggest it’s use. Low humidity and adding more wd40 once every two weeks will work fine though. My current one in a kickside has about a 4 minute spin or so. I generally use thin lube though. ---
**Author:** ![ViscosityHD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/87869e/32.png) [@ViscosityHD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ViscosityHD)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-play-problems/25145/9 "2011-04-06T23:44:08Z")
Thanks everyone for the help! ---
**Author:** ![yoyo4ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/9de053/32.png) [@yoyo4ever](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyo4ever)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 1:36am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-play-problems/25145/10 "2011-04-07T01:36:10Z")
i have bin havin a problem with my duncan metal drifter ever since i took off my friction stickers… i dont have a very long sleep time. how can i fix it??? ---
**Author:** ![Yummy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yummy/32/14065_2.png) [@Yummy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yummy)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 1:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-play-problems/25145/11 "2011-04-07T01:39:37Z")
You need some sort of response system in there to grip the string and allow it to make the yo-yo spin. The Duncan silicone stickers or Dif pads both play very nicely in the Drifter. ---
**Author:** ![yoyo4ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/9de053/32.png) [@yoyo4ever](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyo4ever)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 1:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-play-problems/25145/12 "2011-04-07T01:47:09Z")
thanx ill probably do that… i really appreciate it!!! ---
**Author:** ![hadoq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hadoq/32/688_2.png) [@hadoq](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hadoq)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 6:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-play-problems/25145/13 "2011-04-07T06:22:47Z")
isn’t lighter fluid (well the home equivalent) much cheaper than WD40 anyway ? I know I had 1 liter for like $3 ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-play-problems/25145/14 "2011-04-07T11:32:16Z")
Yeah I’ve used lighter fluid to clean my bearings for a long time. Not to lube them though. ---
**Author:** ![hadoq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hadoq/32/688_2.png) [@hadoq](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hadoq)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-play-problems/25145/15 "2011-04-07T13:10:35Z")
nah, it would be like using a spoon to cut bread, only less efficient. I use onedrop lube which works great, many people use YYJ thin lube or other, various lube (trumpet etc…) good thing for unresponsive play → KK ---
**Author:** ![ViscosityHD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/87869e/32.png) [@ViscosityHD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ViscosityHD)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 1:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-play-problems/25145/16 "2011-04-08T01:39:25Z")
> [@hadoq](#): > > nah, it would be like using a spoon to cut bread, only less efficient. > > I use onedrop lube which works great, many people use YYJ thin lube or other, various lube (trumpet etc…) > > good thing for unresponsive play → KK WHOA WHOA WHOA!! Hold the phone!!! I can use trumpet lube to put on my bearing for unresponsive play? Because my Lil’ sis’ plays the trumpet and I know she has some trumpet lube. ---
**Author:** ![skeletonboy333](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b2d939/32.png) [@skeletonboy333](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skeletonboy333)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 1:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-play-problems/25145/17 "2011-04-08T01:47:50Z")
You can, but lube it correctly. ---
**Author:** ![hadoq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hadoq/32/688_2.png) [@hadoq](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hadoq)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-play-problems/25145/18 "2011-04-08T11:48:52Z")
> [@skeletonboy333](#): > > You can, but lube it correctly. best for unresponsive play is dry if you have to lube it, one tiny drop, no more ---
**Author:** ![skeletonboy333](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b2d939/32.png) [@skeletonboy333](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skeletonboy333)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-play-problems/25145/19 "2011-04-08T22:30:25Z")
You put a drop of lube on a needle or pin tip. There should very little lube on the needle. Apply the drop of lube on the needle/pintip to one of the balls of the bearing. Spin it a few times to get it around and plug 'n play. Running one dry can make the bearing freeze up and/or wear out faster than a lubed one. Also, a correctly lubed bearing, after breaking in, can be as unresponsive as a dry one. ---
**Author:** ![hadoq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hadoq/32/688_2.png) [@hadoq](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hadoq)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2011, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-play-problems/25145/20 "2011-04-09T00:52:50Z")
I couldn’t tell, I don’t play dry, I hate the noise 😃 [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unresponsive-play-problems/25145.md?page=2)