# Unpopular Yoyo Opinions

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554>\
**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [December 23, 2018, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554 "2018-12-23T05:37:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Grendel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/grendel/32/92975_2.png) [@Grendel](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Grendel)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1664 "2020-08-16T18:50:17Z")

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> [@fatguysnacks247](#):
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> are very much art pieces - and many of us display them as such.

You people suck. If I own it I play it. Now Guitars I understand. But not toys. I play with my toys.

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**Author:** ![Roy\_Dodge](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/roy_dodge/32/99408_2.png) [@Roy\_Dodge](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Roy_Dodge)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1665 "2020-08-16T18:53:16Z")

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LOL. Pretty subjective, man. Interesting how you can be cool with guitars sitting, but not yoyos. Both are meant to be played - seems inconsistent if you are going to judge (for the record I don’t care if people collect or play - to each his/her own).

EDIT: Disregard if it was sarcasm. Can’t tell when folks are being tools for real or as a joke online…

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**Author:** ![sparhawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1666 "2020-08-16T19:03:00Z")

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Gonna go out on a ledge and assume there’s some sarcasm in his statement

As for the art statements before. I miss the world of taurbaby, atomic cow, calicojoe, Levi, NB, TaiwanNick and the other artists I missed or were named above.

They did amazing looking stuff but most people just won’t pay the price when they can get the same yoyo minus the cool artwork for way less.

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**Author:** ![Roy\_Dodge](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/roy_dodge/32/99408_2.png) [@Roy\_Dodge](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Roy_Dodge)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1667 "2020-08-16T19:07:28Z")

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Yeah, I can’t tell. Sarcasm doesn’t really translate so well when all we have to work with is the written word.

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**Author:** ![fatguysnacks247](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fatguysnacks247/32/81478_2.png) [@fatguysnacks247](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/fatguysnacks247)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1668 "2020-08-16T19:24:10Z")

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i ‘believe’ it was sarcastic… as @Grendel is quite grendel-like… i do play what i display, it makes them more accessible… and i just rotate different ones from display to cases… (i still have a small open case on my dresser though for grab ‘n go)

it’s a bit sloppy now, and i have a couple more to put up…

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/d/8/7/d87399755ca194ed2c51ab6c99fa3dc9901a2cc3.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/5/7/2/572441eb795c2a6bc425b1e8b53f31b3701e4985.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Lukoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/lukoyo/32/24789_2.png) [@Lukoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lukoyo)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1669 "2020-08-16T19:28:02Z")

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I like those cases. Where did you get them?

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**Author:** ![fatguysnacks247](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fatguysnacks247/32/81478_2.png) [@fatguysnacks247](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/fatguysnacks247)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1670 "2020-08-16T20:10:58Z")

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they are ‘randomgrounds’ bamboo tea boxes, and my wife found them on amazon. i’ve seen them at a low of around $16, and a high of $32.

edit: also, for those that are not in the know, you can track amazon prices at camelcamelcamel

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**Author:** ![Mystik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mystik/32/83294_2.png) [@Mystik](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mystik)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1671 "2020-08-16T20:15:22Z")

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Playable art. Just like guitars.

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**Author:** ![Grendel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/grendel/32/92975_2.png) [@Grendel](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Grendel)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1672 "2020-08-16T23:02:45Z")

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I didn’t know it would get quite this deep. Anyway…

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**Author:** ![Grendel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/grendel/32/92975_2.png) [@Grendel](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Grendel)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 11:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1673 "2020-08-16T23:31:05Z")

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Oh man CalicoJoe!

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**Author:** ![sparhawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2020, 1:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1674 "2020-08-17T01:14:58Z")

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Just remembered astroyama and andocommando’s works were really cool too.

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**Author:** ![vegabomb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/vegabomb/32/199_2.png) [@vegabomb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/vegabomb)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2020, 1:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1675 "2020-08-17T01:24:34Z")

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I remember @Wayne had a calico Joe Dark Magic for sale/trade some years back. I have always regretted not trying to get it.

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**Author:** ![sparhawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2020, 3:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1676 "2020-08-17T03:13:52Z")

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[![Imgur](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/b/5/7/b578cbf7ee398ded5327725ba580acaf25ab0d99.jpeg "Calico Joe Zero") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/mikesparhawk/8710786131/in/album-72157639831392825/)

Can’t remember if I sold this to yoyobrothers or someone else but this was my calicojoe throw

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**Author:** ![yoyoben](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoben/32/141955_2.png) [@yoyoben](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoben)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1677 "2020-10-12T20:55:10Z")

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Thought I’d resurrect this topic

If it’s not boutique it’s bad

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**Author:** ![Durfee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/durfee/32/593280_2.png) [@Durfee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Durfee)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1678 "2020-10-12T21:28:28Z")

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I’d counter that larger companies have the resources to make the final product exactly what they would like through multiple prototyping stages that would likely not be cost efficient for boutique brands. Not only that, they have years of experience and the resources to pay outside people to consult on design. They can have multiple product lines in place at a time because they don’t need to immediately recoup expenses from designing that product.

Boutique companies are often 1 person at the helm without access to the same resources and often are much less experienced than the bigger, proven brands who may have been boutique themselves at first. They often can’t reach the same price point as bigger brands. They don’t have the resources to support the community to the same extent as brands like YYF and Duncan, who support some of the most talented contest yoyoers.

I get the appeal of boutique stuff feeling more significant and unique due to that boutique, limited run status, but how many yoyoers wouldn’t exist if the big brands didn’t exist and put out cheap but quality products?

Edit: want to add that I appreciate boutique brands and they make some of my favorite yo-yos (@MarkD @chaosgow ), and didn’t mean to imply that they can’t make yo-yos that are better than bigger companies, I just wanted to defend them because they are crucial to the community)

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**Author:** ![d34dj3d](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/d34dj3d/32/105169_2.png) [@d34dj3d](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/d34dj3d)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1679 "2020-10-12T22:06:21Z")

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All yoyos deserve to be loved, especially the DV888.

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**Author:** ![nightshadow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nightshadow/32/1574_2.png) [@nightshadow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nightshadow)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 12:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1680 "2020-10-13T00:04:31Z")

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> [@yoyoben](#):
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> If it’s not boutique it’s bad

I am part of a non boutique company.

I can see where you’re coming from, but I would invite you to try some of the latest Sengoku lineup that we have in the works. Not to sound like a commercial, but as someone who witnesses firsthand what goes into them, I can assure you, the yoyos Julio makes are not bad.

I would make sure I had tried just about every non-botique yoyo before I would dismiss them all 😃

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**Author:** ![yoyoben](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoben/32/141955_2.png) [@yoyoben](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoben)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 1:57am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1681 "2020-10-13T01:57:18Z")

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I did sound very harsh lol, For me it seems that more care and thought goes into boutique yoyos, every gsquared I have is dead smooth because @G2_Jake can test all of them, however all the yoyofactorys I’ve tried have vibe or anno defects (A grades). I am open to all companys but as I said, so far, I much prefer boutique throws over mass-produced YYF, that being said some throws I’ve tried are dead smooth and pretty good. Another point I noticed is that boutique companys seem to make more unique designs and colorways, a lot of CLYW, YYF, and others just look bland and boring. most yoyos these days are rrally good it just comes down to preference. 🤷‍♂️

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**Author:** ![Grendel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/grendel/32/92975_2.png) [@Grendel](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Grendel)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 2:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1682 "2020-10-13T02:10:47Z")

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All this whining. Have you tried One Drop yet???

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**Author:** ![yoyoben](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoben/32/141955_2.png) [@yoyoben](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoben)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 2:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1683 "2020-10-13T02:18:25Z")

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Not yet I’ve tried stuff machined by them but not one of their official releases, every time I’m about to pull the trigger some limited drop has to be announced and steal my money :joy:  
I wasn’t really targeting them I was more talking about YYF, magic yoyo, and the new CLYWs  
Didn’t think I sounded “Whiny” Sorry if it came out that way.

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