# Unpopular Yoyo Opinions

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554>\
**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [December 23, 2018, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554 "2018-12-23T05:37:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![nightshadow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nightshadow/32/1574_2.png) [@nightshadow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nightshadow)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1584 "2020-07-07T19:18:02Z")

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Oh yeah for sure. I don’t mind flag bearings unless I’m going for horizontal to be honest.

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**Author:** ![smileypants707](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smileypants707/32/19045_2.png) [@smileypants707](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smileypants707)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1585 "2020-07-07T20:59:32Z")

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Good Lord, the flat yoyo bearings debate should become an argument of scholarly philosophical debate; it’ll rest in the great halls of academia, alongside the age old chicken or egg debate. Someone needs to write a dissertation about this lol.

PhD in Yoyo Philosophy and Engineering

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**Author:** ![nightshadow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nightshadow/32/1574_2.png) [@nightshadow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nightshadow)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1586 "2020-07-07T21:19:54Z")

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I could do a research essay on it

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**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1587 "2020-07-07T21:31:59Z")

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I have a lot of flat bearings, most of them pulled from my One Drops. I don’t like them. But that doesn’t mean they are bad bearings. To the contrary, One Drop 10-ball flat bearings are exceptional bearings in terms of build quality and spin performance. Unfortunately they induce precession like crazy, so I have no use for them.

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**Author:** ![PCaliyoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pcaliyoyos/32/108396_2.png) [@PCaliyoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PCaliyoyos)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1588 "2020-07-07T21:36:24Z")

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yeah… in the furnace where they can melt away. :wink:

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**Author:** ![Isaac](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/isaac/32/597931_2.png) [@Isaac](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Isaac)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1589 "2020-07-07T22:07:38Z")

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What do you mean by “they induce precession like crazy”?

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**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1590 "2020-07-07T22:13:52Z")

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I’m not sure what is ambiguous about what I wrote, but to quote yoytricks:

“…the flat shape allows the string to sit wherever it wants to on the outer race, causing the yoyo to become unbalanced and to turn (precess) while spinning.”

It is simply the nature of flat bearings and the physics involved in a spinning yoyo. 🤷‍♂️

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**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1591 "2020-07-07T22:22:31Z")

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Being a skateboarder I feel that flat bearings are like riding loose trucks. They let me carve and jam around in the corners a little more and loosen up my style. Probably why old school players look so smooth they are use to playing loose. The current whippy Meta can be a bit stiff IMO.

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**Author:** ![Isaac](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/isaac/32/597931_2.png) [@Isaac](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Isaac)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1592 "2020-07-07T22:28:56Z")

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well considering I’ve never heard or seen the word precess used before, that’s what was ambiguous. The word also didn’t show up in my browser’s dictionary so i wasn’t sure if you’d typo’d something or what.

Simply not everyone knows all the physics terms involved with playing with a toy 🤷‍♀️

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**Author:** ![Yoyo\_slacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyo_slacker/32/89203_2.png) [@Yoyo\_slacker](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyo_slacker)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1593 "2020-07-07T22:34:34Z")

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open to more than one interpretation; having a double meaning

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**Author:** ![skitrz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/skitrz/32/849_2.png) [@skitrz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skitrz)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1594 "2020-07-07T22:35:10Z")

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> [@Exmime](#):
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> They let me carve and jam around in the corners a little more and loosen up my style. Probably why old school players look so smooth they are use to playing loose. The current whippy Meta can be a bit stiff IMO.

What! You are not allowed this opinion. Not because it’s wrong or right but because it goes against the yoyo collective! Get it together be assimilated! Individuals, who needs 'em.

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**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1595 "2020-07-07T22:35:28Z")

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> [@zslane](#):
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> “…the flat shape allows the string to sit wherever it wants to on the outer race, causing the yoyo to become unbalanced and to turn (precess) while spinning.”

But isn’t this true of any bearing? I’m pretty sure no bearing balances the yoyo. If you let you yoyo just rest at in the bottom of the string it will tilt one way or the other.

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**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1596 "2020-07-07T22:39:43Z")

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> [@smileypants707](#):
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> Someone needs to write a dissertation about this lol.

Yes!

Im a teacher, and like the flat vs centering bearing debate, there is a PhD there’s to be written on why kids seems to consistently refuse to use capitals and fullstops (periods) in their writing. It’s driving me insane.

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**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 11:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1597 "2020-07-07T23:11:19Z")

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> [@anon5341354](#):
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> But isn’t this true of any bearing?

Yes, but the scale of the effect is (I believe) in proportion to the distance the string is away from the center line. Different centering bearing guide the string towards the center line to differing degrees, whereas flat bearings do nothing in this regard.

Moreover, precession is mitigated by the gyroscopic force of a spinning yoyo, which is why precession is far more proncounced, regardless of bearing type, when the yoyo is just dangling dead on the string.

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**Author:** ![Roy\_Dodge](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/roy_dodge/32/99408_2.png) [@Roy\_Dodge](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Roy_Dodge)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1598 "2020-07-07T23:25:48Z")

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1. The effect of “centering” bearings is overstated.

2. The yoyo market is NOT oversaturated.

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**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 11:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1599 "2020-07-07T23:42:58Z")

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I agree with point #2 only.

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**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 12:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1600 "2020-07-08T00:00:18Z")

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Same here. But for #1, I suppose it depends on which of the myriad interrelated effects we’re talking about, along with one’s definition of “overstated”.

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**Author:** ![mOonman\_V](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moonman_v/32/39920_2.png) [@mOonman\_V](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mOonman_V)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1601 "2020-07-09T14:48:34Z")

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That’s a gem.

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**Author:** ![stevejspins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@stevejspins](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stevejspins)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1602 "2020-07-09T14:53:38Z")

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Yo-yos make a good topic for a physics project. Wait… that is a popular opinion as it should be.

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**Author:** ![yoyojoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e99b99/32.png) [@yoyojoe](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyojoe)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1603 "2020-07-09T15:52:19Z")

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A-RT has some really bad quality control

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