# Unpopular Yoyo Opinions

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554>\
**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [December 23, 2018, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554 "2018-12-23T05:37:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 69

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**Author:** ![Durfee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/durfee/32/593280_2.png) [@Durfee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Durfee)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 4:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1437 "2019-10-28T04:15:38Z")

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Don’t worry I won’t reply again.

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**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 4:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1438 "2019-10-28T04:20:32Z")

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That wasn’t really the point of my replies; it was to get people to think outside the box a little bit. And bearing blanks should make a comeback. There’s a reason they were bundled with every Cold Fusion! I’d love to try them in my Deep State.

NB: when I first got the cold fusion (took a while to find a cheap-ish one on ebay) it actually _had_ the brass bearing blank in it, and I didn’t notice! It performed quite well with it.

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**Author:** ![Marm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/marm/32/46204_2.png) [@Marm](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Marm)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 4:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1439 "2019-10-28T04:21:10Z")

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Ding dong your opinion is wrong

How can someone not like raw yo-yos?! They are design and beauty in its purist form

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**Author:** ![MoosaK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moosak/32/116955_2.png) [@MoosaK](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoosaK)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 5:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1440 "2019-10-28T05:05:56Z")

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Yes but the problem is that  
A. No disrespect meant, but David seemed visibly annoyed with the suggestion. Maybe so because he had just responded to around 200 grievances in the same thread and was probably getting annoyed with it  
B. I’d say the vast majority of people disagree with the idea of shipping yoyos with bearing blanks.

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**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 5:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1441 "2019-10-28T05:31:04Z")

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You don’t wanna be annoyed, don’t start a business :wink:

I was impressed he was in there listening and replying in good faith for the most part, TBH

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**Author:** ![smileypants707](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smileypants707/32/19045_2.png) [@smileypants707](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smileypants707)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1442 "2019-10-28T07:13:34Z")

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> [@Durfee](#):
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> I think the whole made in USA thing is more marketing ploy than anything genuine, even if the makers aren’t doing so intentionally.

I strongly dislike this debate, because there is no clear winner. The debate boils down to a spectrum of business vs sentiment.

One would argue that outsourcing is the best way to manufacture a product. “It is hard to kick against the goads.” And to do so is plain foolish.

The other would argue that there is a strong sentimental value in manufacturing a product locally, and sourced from local materials.

The former sees the latter as ridiculous and hopelessly inconsistent (which isn’t completely untrue), favoring a romantic facade of deluded reality over rigid and factual benefits of playing the game by the book;

The latter sees the former as cold and void of dignity (which also isn’t completely untrue), favoring profits and busines growth over subjective ethical standards and the unique satisfaction of keeping manufacturing local in a global economy.

Can the former be blamed for making equitable business decisions? Is it fair to label them greedy?

Can the latter be blamed for making business decisions that do not bear against their conscience? Is it fair to label their efforts a marketing ploy?

It’s an age old debate.

Dr. Mckoy vs Mr. Spock.

Localism vs globalism.

Logic vs sentiment.

On paper, there is no clear winner. In reality, globalism will win. It is winning.

In my opinion, localism is a form of protest against globalism, not inherently a marketing ploy. Is it futile? Probably. But it feels so right!

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**Author:** ![TheThrowingGnome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/thethrowinggnome/32/14231_2.png) [@TheThrowingGnome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheThrowingGnome)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1443 "2019-10-28T11:43:01Z")

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You should just make 500 copies of Luftverk bearing blanks and then sell them for charity.

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**Author:** ![yoyo\_cubicle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyo_cubicle/32/691750_2.png) [@yoyo\_cubicle](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyo_cubicle)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1444 "2019-10-28T11:48:03Z")

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I got dibs on numbers 69 and 420.

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**Author:** ![PCaliyoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pcaliyoyos/32/108396_2.png) [@PCaliyoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PCaliyoyos)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1445 "2019-10-28T13:53:50Z")

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lmao

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**Author:** ![MoosaK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moosak/32/116955_2.png) [@MoosaK](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoosaK)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1446 "2019-10-28T15:09:42Z")

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I think having stuff produced locally/something like onedrop where they machine they’re own yoyos is a good thing.

But it bothers me when people seem to talk about this issue from a nationalistic sense.  
There is no reason for manufacturers to not be outsourcing to China. It’s cheaper and produces the better product.

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**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1447 "2019-10-28T17:50:58Z")

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> [@MoosaK](#):
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> There is no reason for manufacturers to not be outsourcing to China.

I’m sure that if you talk with people deeply knowledgeable in business practices around the world, including the way labor is treated, the effects of globalism on society and culture, etc. you will hear a whole bunch of reasons for and against outsourcing to China (or other countries where the culture and living standard is vastly different from our own).

Globalism may be winning (and unstoppably so), but it isn’t necessarily benefiting everyone equally or fairly.

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**Author:** ![Durfee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/durfee/32/593280_2.png) [@Durfee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Durfee)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1448 "2019-10-28T18:37:47Z")

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This is why above I mentioned the only way to change things is through democratic economic powerhouses using their economic and political influence to shift these conditions. Even if buying only made in and sourced from USA (which I can pretty much guarantee is basically impossible to do for all goods and products) you’re still not doing anything to improve the lives of the grossly underpaid, overworked and unsafe workers in other places. You may not be giving these awful  
companies your money and that’s noble, but it doesn’t help those workers.

The problem is most countries that could make a difference need these other countries as trading partners and military allies and aren’t in the position to do too much.

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**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1449 "2019-10-28T18:43:17Z")

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Yes, the problem is more complex and nuanced than most people think. Over-simplified solutions like tariffs, boycotts, and imbalanced trade agreements aren’t really long-term solutions. But they placate voters, and so that’s what our politicians typically push for.

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**Author:** ![vegabomb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/vegabomb/32/199_2.png) [@vegabomb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/vegabomb)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1454 "2019-10-28T20:12:23Z")

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No politics please folks. Thanks. 🙂

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**Author:** ![smileypants707](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smileypants707/32/19045_2.png) [@smileypants707](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smileypants707)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1455 "2019-10-28T20:18:05Z")

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Sure, silence the truth seeker because it makes you uncomfortable.

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**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1456 "2019-10-28T20:19:59Z")

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Actually @smileypants707, it’s one of the forum rules not to discuss politics.

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**Author:** ![skitrz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/skitrz/32/849_2.png) [@skitrz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skitrz)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1457 "2019-10-28T20:20:01Z")

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Nah that’s not it. Once the rules have been read all will be understood. 😆

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**Author:** ![smileypants707](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smileypants707/32/19045_2.png) [@smileypants707](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smileypants707)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1458 "2019-10-28T20:27:17Z")

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@anon5341354 @skitrz

Sure, that’s fine. I get it. There is a reality unfolding beneath our very feet that most people are not aware of. And we’re just not going to talk about that here, because rules said so. Oh, and yoyos. Yay toys.

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**Author:** ![skitrz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/skitrz/32/849_2.png) [@skitrz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skitrz)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1459 "2019-10-28T20:31:02Z")

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So what prevents you from discussing with like minded members via pm or going to other sites to discuss politics and religion? This is not our house, we are guests.

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**Author:** ![smileypants707](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smileypants707/32/19045_2.png) [@smileypants707](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smileypants707)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1460 "2019-10-28T20:33:33Z")

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Nothing prevents me from doing that. This is just a subject that I am passionate about, and I feel like it would be dishonest of me to hide it from public discussion.

Edit:

I’ve spoken my peace, and my comment was removed. I have a clean conscience about that. That is more valuable to me than having said nothing at all.

I do like this community, and I do not wish to cause anymore drama than I already have.

Carry on citizens, nothing to see here.

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