# Unpopular Yoyo Opinions **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [December 23, 2018, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554 "2018-12-23T05:37:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 57
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1195 "2019-08-21T18:03:48Z")
> [@zslane](#): > > except maybe that you’re diligently working on 3a I got this covered tho 😛 ---
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1196 "2019-08-21T18:04:16Z")
get OUT OF MY THREAD ---
**Author:** ![smileypants707](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smileypants707/32/19045_2.png) [@smileypants707](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smileypants707)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1197 "2019-08-21T18:05:22Z")
I _live for this thread_ Andy. ---
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1198 "2019-08-21T18:06:55Z")
Me too Gotta love controversy amirite ---
**Author:** ![hobbygod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hobbygod/32/120997_2.png) [@hobbygod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobbygod)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1199 "2019-08-21T18:21:20Z")
I agree. Beartrap was interesting, but thats about it. Nothing since the summit/avalanche/chief era really impressed me. ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/johnnyj/32/94616_2.png) [@JohnnyJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnnyJ)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1200 "2019-08-21T18:32:14Z")
Have you tried the older stuff? I haven’t liked any of the new CLYW other than the Akita. All of my favorite CLYW are older models like the Chief, Avalanche, OG Gnarwhal, BVM1/2 ---
**Author:** ![Durfee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/durfee/32/593280_2.png) [@Durfee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Durfee)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1201 "2019-08-21T20:39:30Z")
I like my Kayak but I’m not as impressed with after getting up to speed with more of the modern stuff from other companies. ---
**Author:** ![Lukoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/lukoyo/32/24789_2.png) [@Lukoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lukoyo)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1202 "2019-08-21T20:47:52Z")
Dude, you and I are on the same page. Old school CLYW are way more appealing than the newer things that they’ve been producing, can’t explain why. I like the peak 2 because it’s basically a peak that I don’t really have to worry about loosing or dinging, I could just buy another one. I bought a Borealis 2 last year, and it’s a fantastic throw, but it didn’t seem to have any character, if that makes sense. My older throws though, like the peak, wm and chief are all great fun players. ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1203 "2019-08-21T21:04:08Z")
You really are funny, @zslane. ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1204 "2019-08-21T21:05:52Z")
> [@smileypants707](#): > > I’ve had a Compass and a Peak 2. Both were kind of… wait for it… bland. What does that mean to me exactly? I can’t really quantify it. I tried really hard to like them, but I just couldn’t. Does that make them bad yoyos in my opinion? Not at all. They were just… bland I’m surprised you don’t like the Peak 2, @smileypants707. I like mine, I think it’s a pretty lively organic. ---
**Author:** ![smileypants707](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smileypants707/32/19045_2.png) [@smileypants707](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smileypants707)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1205 "2019-08-21T21:24:15Z")
I know… On paper, it should be a favorite of mine. It was: - way too snaggy. Seriously, I tried everything I could think of (new bearings, thinner string, different pads) and never quite got it sorted out. - I also wish it had just a smidge more spin power. I really had to push to get through most of my combos. It was, however, a boss at regens. But the Canvas is pretty much the quintessence of organicness IMHO. I’d really like to compare it to a Diptych and Life, since they are both pretty similar in design. ---
**Author:** ![eternalmetal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eternalmetal/32/44877_2.png) [@eternalmetal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/eternalmetal)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1206 "2019-08-21T21:26:59Z")
I can’t be bothered to be careful when playing with a toy. I agree that there is nothing good about yoyo damage, but having a beater that you don’t mind dinging is nice. However I’m not limiting my yoyoing on hard surfaces to plastic. Plastic yoyos are boring (oh, is this an unpopular opinion?). ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/johnnyj/32/94616_2.png) [@JohnnyJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnnyJ)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1207 "2019-08-21T21:45:04Z")
I think you’d really enjoy the Life. It was as close to a modern Canvas as anything I’ve used. ---
**Author:** ![MoosaK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moosak/32/116955_2.png) [@MoosaK](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoosaK)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1208 "2019-08-21T23:47:53Z")
> [@smileypants707](#): > > way too snaggy. Seriously, I tried everything I could think of (new bearings, thinner string, different pads) and never quite got it sorted out. Had this issue on my Kayak so I replaced the response with flowable silicone and it works great now. ---
**Author:** ![Durfee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/durfee/32/593280_2.png) [@Durfee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Durfee)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 11:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1209 "2019-08-21T23:53:29Z")
This got a lot better for me after a decent amount of play time. ---
**Author:** ![MoosaK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moosak/32/116955_2.png) [@MoosaK](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoosaK)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1210 "2019-08-22T00:07:55Z")
I played with the yo-yo for several months before replacing with silicone. ---
**Author:** ![sfyoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sfyoyos/32/20072_2.png) [@sfyoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sfyoyos)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 5:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1211 "2019-08-22T05:59:31Z")
While I COMPLETELY agree with your overall sentiment that yoyo reviews really aren’t all that useful, your speed combo bit isn’t all accurate. A yoyo “playing” fast doesn’t actually make it good at speed combos. Many light yoyos play fast but don’t have enough overall mass to stand up to the stress put on the yoyo by a speed combo. A lot of heavier yoyos (see: anglam, cognition) with really solid play feel can get up to speed quickly and hold up to the stresses of a speed combo well… others can’t really (see: downbeat). The Draupnir ends up being good at it despite low mass because it handles high stress. “Good at speed combos” isn’t really about how fast the yoyo naturally plays, it’s more about its ability to get up to speed and stay there without a bunch of effort and also it’s ability to keep spinning in high stress/high snag environments. Speed combos are one of the only things I don’t think an intermediate player can really review usually. Also Horizontal… but that’s an entirely different conversation. ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1212 "2019-08-22T09:52:39Z")
I just want to reiterate, that my main argument above all I have been saying is that everything (including what you have just said about speed combos) can be discerned with careful consideration accurately by design and specs alone . There is no need for any review by any player; highly skilled or otherwise. I just got this in the post. I have examined pictures of this yoyo carefully before I received it and it performs and feels exactly as I figured it would. Anyone can with a little know-how. ![15664677823823407120615600604398](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/e/5/b/e5bd86039d817988bd72bc588abbcf2d53db19fa.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Skwan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@Skwan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Skwan)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1213 "2019-08-22T10:47:38Z")
Curious about what makes a yoyo “play fast” (ie not just being able to be fast if you push it). Take Hummingbird/Draupnir/Overdrive Draupnir for example. Hummingbird is lightest, but I would say Draupnir wants to play the fastest. What are the design element/spec that makes their play speed go Draupnir-\> hummingbird-\> Overdrive Draupnir. I picked these example because their specs are fairly similar and I have all of them. ---
**Author:** ![Mazdarx7FD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mazdarx7fd/32/43086_2.png) [@Mazdarx7FD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mazdarx7FD)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2019, 5:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/1214 "2019-08-24T05:53:36Z")
I am planning a review on the draupnir myself and a shootout between HB and Draupnir. I want to tackle this too. [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554.md?page=56) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554.md?page=58)