# Unpopular Yoyo Opinions **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [December 23, 2018, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554 "2018-12-23T05:37:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 34
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 4:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/695 "2019-07-03T04:54:12Z")
I actually agree with Josh on that, the amount of commitment and patience you have to have to just be able to actually do REAL 2a(looping with both hands) is unreal. I might’ve even put more time into 2a than 3a-5a combined but I can at least do the basics and fundamentals of all the other styles. I can’t even do consistent 2 handed inside loops yet. Call it a stereotype or whatever but due to Japanese and asian culture, they do tend to be more disciplined than Americans on average. Just look at the amount of nearly world class young talent that have come and are coming from Japan/Korea/etc. I think the truth simply is the harder the style and learning curve the less people that try to even attempt and commit to it. Just look at the popularity and you’ll see. 1a\>5a\>4a\>3a\>2a Which tbh is crazy to me because 2a was the most popular competition style 20 years ago. Now it’s basically dead in the US despite having more overall players and better equipment for it ---
**Author:** ![Damo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/damo/32/57474_2.png) [@Damo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Damo)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 5:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/696 "2019-07-03T05:02:59Z")
I think base 4a is a heck of a lot easier than 5a. Base meaning only 1 offstring yoyo and not soloham I think it’s called. The one with 2 offstring yoyos. I do think 5a is more popular than 4a tho. Not sure if you were saying that the difficulty directly translated to popularity. ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/697 "2019-07-03T10:58:56Z")
> [@andy569](#): > > Well MAYBE I DONT WANT YOUR YOYOS GLEN I would say you definitely don’t want my yoyos. ---
**Author:** ![EOS44](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eos44/32/47059_2.png) [@EOS44](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/EOS44)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/698 "2019-07-03T11:07:25Z")
> [@JeiCheetah](#): > > The yoyo community does not have to be so “kid friendly” as it’s been and should have outlets and events that can cater to not always having to be so PG. idk man. I see where people who think this way are coming from, but i will never be able to mix or relate yoyo with more adult themes. It’s weird. It’s a toy. > [@JeiCheetah](#): > > Most companies are only willing to hype 1A and 1A players which is a big reason why the other X division styles have faded in interest. This is true. > [@JeiCheetah](#): > > we’re too into instant gratification and being lazy. This is mega true. > [@smileypants707](#): > > it’s not like 1a is a walk in the park… Compared to 2A, 1A is indeed a nice walk in the park. The base skill for 1A is learning how to bind. The base skill for 2A is how to do inside loops. One of those is insanely more difficult than the other. ---
**Author:** ![Legit\_yoyostrings](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/legit_yoyostrings/32/136873_2.png) [@Legit\_yoyostrings](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Legit_yoyostrings)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/699 "2019-07-03T11:09:59Z")
same here my boi ---
**Author:** ![hobbygod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hobbygod/32/120997_2.png) [@hobbygod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobbygod)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/700 "2019-07-03T11:57:53Z")
That contest meta is so true. I feel like I’m seeing the same freestyle every time. Speed combo, laceration combo, some trick takeshi made up, bangers that follow some trend (this year it’s that spinning whips thing) etc ---
**Author:** ![yyfben2.deactivated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ccd318/32.png) [@yyfben2.deactivated](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yyfben2.deactivated)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/701 "2019-07-03T14:20:57Z")
Genesis was a grind machine 2 without hubstacks. Grind machine 2 was released in 2007 and predates 888. ---
**Author:** ![yyfben2.deactivated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ccd318/32.png) [@yyfben2.deactivated](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yyfben2.deactivated)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/702 "2019-07-03T14:25:51Z")
Your problem here is we did everything they do before 2010. ---
**Author:** ![moby323](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moby323/32/57094_2.png) [@moby323](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/moby323)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/703 "2019-07-03T14:29:54Z")
Ok this is the first comment in this thread that made me actually say out loud, “Dude, what are you TALKING about!?” ---
**Author:** ![moby323](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moby323/32/57094_2.png) [@moby323](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/moby323)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/704 "2019-07-03T14:35:29Z")
HI think the Japanese in particular pick up 2A more for cultural reasons. The Japanese believe in doing things perfectly and that search for perfection in even the simplest of things is what drives them. In that way they get hooked on trying to do “perfect” loops and are more likely to literally spend hours a day doing one trick over and over to perfect it. It’s the same way that they seek perfection in gardens, calligraphy, the tea ceremony, the movements in archery etc. I don’t think that doing a “simple” thing perfectly is as appealing to Americans who put more emphasis (I think) in style and creativity. I’m Brazilian originally so as a bit of an outsider that’s how I see it. And I’m talking about the beginner to intermediate phase of looping, obviously later on there is a lot more style or creativity but initially it really is about perfecting a few simple movements. ---
**Author:** ![smileypants707](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smileypants707/32/19045_2.png) [@smileypants707](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smileypants707)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2019, 1:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/705 "2019-07-04T01:24:58Z")
> [@JeiCheetah](#): > > The yoyo community does not have to be so “kid friendly” as it’s been and should have outlets and events that can cater to not always having to be so PG. Yeah, idk about this one.. I appreciate the level of innocence that is associated with yoyo culture. I’ve been just as desensitized as most people, and it’s nice to have a clean outlet. The thought of it getting any more “adult” in flavor kind of breaks my heart a little bit. So I guess this constitutes as a pretty good unpopular opinion ---
**Author:** ![Legit\_yoyostrings](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/legit_yoyostrings/32/136873_2.png) [@Legit\_yoyostrings](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Legit_yoyostrings)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2019, 1:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/706 "2019-07-04T01:26:18Z")
I agree ---
**Author:** ![MoosaK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moosak/32/116955_2.png) [@MoosaK](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoosaK)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2019, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/707 "2019-07-04T01:51:35Z")
I hold the same position. I like the community as it is, fun and supportive for people of all ages. ---
**Author:** ![Egon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/egon/32/53004_2.png) [@Egon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Egon)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2019, 1:56am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/708 "2019-07-04T01:56:12Z")
I agree. I never dug the models that Johnny D came out with that had the crude names. I found them distasteful and unnecessary. !@&/ off and Unicorn ?!zz. ---
**Author:** ![beeebon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/beeebon/32/30672_2.png) [@beeebon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/beeebon)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2019, 4:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/709 "2019-07-04T04:59:25Z")
I know that the censoring of swear words and encouragement of keeping this a child friendly place would have really wound me up when I was a bit younger but it doesn’t really bother me now I’m in my late 30s. ---
**Author:** ![threebearrries](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/threebearrries/32/42073_2.png) [@threebearrries](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/threebearrries)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2019, 5:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/710 "2019-07-04T05:01:05Z")
Solid green is the worst colorway. Sorry @twitch77 🧪 ---
**Author:** ![twitch77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/twitch77/32/60219_2.png) [@twitch77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/twitch77)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2019, 5:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/711 "2019-07-04T05:14:10Z")
Oh no need to be sorry! I understand that not everyone can be right all the time. You’re only human! It’s okay that you’re incorrect here!! 😛 😛 😛 haha totally kidding! Color is a very subjective thing for sure! ---
**Author:** ![MoosaK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moosak/32/116955_2.png) [@MoosaK](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoosaK)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2019, 6:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/712 "2019-07-04T06:29:15Z")
Nah I think he’s just wrong ---
**Author:** ![beezy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/beezy/32/161690_2.png) [@beezy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/beezy)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2019, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/713 "2019-07-04T07:00:31Z")
> [@threebearrries](#): > > Solid green is the worst colorway. Totally agree, the worst! People should get rid of their green yoyos, especially by selling them on the BST when I have money to dispose of them. 🤑 Green organics like Grails are particularly disgusting. 🤢🤮 I can help quarantine them as a service to the community. ---
**Author:** ![smileypants707](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smileypants707/32/19045_2.png) [@smileypants707](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smileypants707)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2019, 7:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/714 "2019-07-04T07:03:02Z")
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