# Unpopular Yoyo Opinions

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554>\
**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [December 23, 2018, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554 "2018-12-23T05:37:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 1:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/306 "2019-05-15T01:41:08Z")

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That would be like me deciding that “yoyoing” is only “yoyoing” if you’re wearing gloves. Works fine in conversations with myself, I guess, but it won’t get me very far with the rest of the community (or the world).

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**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 1:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/307 "2019-05-15T01:43:20Z")

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> [@Saber](#):
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> the DV888 is a great throw

![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/5/4/1/54102f4131f621d8070fb5e2ec3dfcb0a5ef903a.gif)

> [@RABid](#):
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> The most unpopular yoyo opinion is “you only need one.”

Well yeah that’s just _wrong!_

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**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 1:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/308 "2019-05-15T01:46:29Z")

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Here’s an unpopular opinion around here:

- Abundant stability and spin time is _not_ the enemy of fun.

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**Author:** ![eternalmetal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eternalmetal/32/44877_2.png) [@eternalmetal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/eternalmetal)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 1:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/309 "2019-05-15T01:53:28Z")

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Honestly, no it isnt. The “what constitutes a sport?” debate is quite an old one tbh.

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**Author:** ![Drakkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/drakkar/32/230080_2.png) [@Drakkar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Drakkar)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 1:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/310 "2019-05-15T01:58:16Z")

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Oh, no, this is going to turn into a huge debate again, isn’t it?

 ![56388174](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/b/c/2/bc2f0802e8236e804dc0f03212e23c41d8f3c633.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 2:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/311 "2019-05-15T02:00:28Z")

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> [@eternalmetal](#):
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> we came to a consensus on is that a sport must have defense

Oh, I don’t dispute that the debate is quite old (and silly, to be quite honest).

But where does the above “we”–and its so-called consensus–obtain authority? Answer: nowhere.

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**Author:** ![eternalmetal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eternalmetal/32/44877_2.png) [@eternalmetal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/eternalmetal)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 2:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/312 "2019-05-15T02:15:57Z")

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> [@eternalmetal](#):
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> It is surely up for debate

Pretty sure I said that. I was just saying I had the debate before, and imo having or not having defense solved a lot of those close-calls. Do a quick google search and realize that I am in the minority of people who don’t call gymnastics a sport. This _is_ an unpopular opinion thread after all.

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**Author:** ![EthanV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/4491bb/32.png) [@EthanV](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/EthanV)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 7:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/313 "2019-05-15T07:08:22Z")

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In most advanced slacks, pinching is the most noticeable difference. Other than that, gloves are nice.

(Ps: idk if i spelled “noticeable” right)

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**Author:** ![nonja121](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nonja121/32/52722_2.png) [@nonja121](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nonja121)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/315 "2019-05-15T10:49:19Z")

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Not a fan of the trend to lighter throws. Like a bit of weight on my throws.

Many bimetals feel boring to me vs monometals.

Don’t understand the hype around the 2018 Banshee (haven’t tried the OG). Much prefer the Reaper to it.

Not a fan of most splashes and fades. Solids and acid wash ftw.

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**Author:** ![Astroyama](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/astroyama/32/75983_2.png) [@Astroyama](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Astroyama)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/316 "2019-05-15T13:28:10Z")

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Yoyos are a subtle form of Gross Pollution.  
Way too carbon intensive.  
Way too many yoyos, not enough hands to play them.

Which makes all of you…Gross Polluters.  
IMO

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**Author:** ![\_Z1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/_z1/32/230318_2.png) [@\_Z1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/_Z1)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/317 "2019-05-16T19:06:50Z")

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These is the opinions I will always say no matter how much heat I get over it:

-Moebius is its own style.  
-For the love of the yoyo gods, Fixed axle deserves to be its own division!!  
-The current meta/trick trends is nothing but optimization, NOT innovation.  
-There will never be a better freehand except the very 1st one.

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**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/318 "2019-05-16T19:08:14Z")

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> [@\_Z1](#):
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> The current meta/trick trends

What are these trends? I confess I don’t know what this refers to.

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**Author:** ![Damb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/damb/32/44045_2.png) [@Damb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Damb)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/319 "2019-05-16T19:14:23Z")

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Brent stole → reverse Brent stole → rejection ninja vanish, right @EOS44? 🤣

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**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/320 "2019-05-16T20:36:11Z")

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Many tricks and styles at the advanced level, in competition and even in trick circles, today are optimized to click well. This definitely isn’t the case for everything for trick circles but a lot of them generally are built in a way that would click well, intentional or not, because of the advanced meta.

@damb gave a good example, laceration combos are optimized and you see them a lot in competition, especially at the state and regional level, because they’re an easy way to get points.

Just speaking generally, tricks with “big” elements and direction are optimized.

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**Author:** ![ThrowButcher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/throwbutcher/32/54388_2.png) [@ThrowButcher](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ThrowButcher)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/321 "2019-05-17T16:01:29Z")

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But… Those are my favorite tricks!

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**Author:** ![Egon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/egon/32/53004_2.png) [@Egon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Egon)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/323 "2019-05-20T16:02:29Z")

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Bedazzling your Tom Kuhn Mandala ruins it.

Will Smith is a terrible Genie.

 ![genie_mandala](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/9/c/1/9c1a31a3074083f07091b872044fede282a1fb5f.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![edhaponik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/edhaponik/32/150896_2.png) [@edhaponik](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/edhaponik)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/324 "2019-05-20T16:29:11Z")

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God don’t get me started on those. There is a directly proportional relationship between the number of Swarovski crystals on a No Jive and my desire to throw it off a bridge. Into fire. I have a few Eric Wolff-modded No Jives with sanded gaps and 4 rhinestones (a la Diamond Special), but anything beyond that is NOPENOPENOPE.

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**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/325 "2019-05-20T17:55:07Z")

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> [@edhaponik](#):
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> There is a directly proportional relationship between the number of Swarovski crystals on a No Jive and my desire to throw it off a bridge. Into fire.

:yo-yo: 🌉 :fire:

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**Author:** ![AaronW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aaronw/32/49251_2.png) [@AaronW](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AaronW)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/326 "2019-05-20T18:30:59Z")

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> [@edhaponik](#):
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> There is a directly proportional relationship between the number of Swarovski crystals on a No Jive and my desire to throw it off a bridge.

![:spit](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/6/c/7/6c72f4301da083797d5ca36ec507806c6571b470.gif)

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**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/327 "2019-05-20T18:36:21Z")

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But all those crystals might attract a new player to yoyoing, in which case they justify their ostentatious existence on that basis alone!

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