# Unexplored Hybrid Designs **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [April 5, 2025, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unexplored-hybrid-designs/422482 "2025-04-05T16:24:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SlacKing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f8ce5/32.png) [@SlacKing](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SlacKing)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unexplored-hybrid-designs/422482/1 "2025-04-05T16:24:14Z")
Has there ever been a brass and plastic hybrid (brastic for short)? Once upon a time, I would have thought this was too much weight for plastic to handle, but modern plastic throws are super durable, and some extremely chunky stainless rims have been used on hybrids without issue. While we’re at it, why aren’t there more inner-rim hybrids? The only ones I can think of are a few 4A yoyos (Flawless Air, EOM, Jet Set EX, etc.). ---
**Author:** ![Sergio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sergio/32/70931_2.png) [@Sergio](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Sergio)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unexplored-hybrid-designs/422482/2 "2025-04-05T17:10:56Z")
Yoyo jam phenomizm has brass rings ---
**Author:** ![hsb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hsb/32/193274_2.png) [@hsb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hsb)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unexplored-hybrid-designs/422482/3 "2025-04-05T17:21:29Z")
Sonic Wave > **[SONiC WAVE](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/sonic-wave-yoyo-by-iyoyo)** > > The iYOYO SONiC WAVE yo-yo holds a unique status, undergoing more prototypes than most in the iYOYO lineup. They meticulously experimented with shape, weight, and weight distribution to perfect its design. The SONiC WAVE caters to fans of both the... ---
**Author:** ![SlacKing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f8ce5/32.png) [@SlacKing](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SlacKing)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unexplored-hybrid-designs/422482/4 "2025-04-05T17:50:10Z")
I would have almost sworn I’ve looked at that one before, but it completely slipped my mind. Thanks. > [@Sergio](#): > > phenomizm I knew YYJ had experimented with brass at some point. Kind of crazy that we have to go back more than a decade to find an example. ---
**Author:** ![Kalic00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f0a364/32.png) [@Kalic00](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Kalic00)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unexplored-hybrid-designs/422482/5 "2025-04-05T22:45:00Z")
> [@SlacKing](#): > > why aren’t there more inner-rim hybrids? I mean we got jake bullock’s dunk LX this year, as well as the yyf x mowl protostar (with ti rings ) and historically we had the yyf proto/northstars, the buzz-on element x, and plenty of other inner ring hybrids. ---
**Author:** ![SlacKing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f8ce5/32.png) [@SlacKing](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SlacKing)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unexplored-hybrid-designs/422482/6 "2025-04-05T23:23:47Z")
Ah, good points. There’s also the Cabal Gen 2. I didn’t think through/research that part of my post, so my bad. ---
**Author:** ![Blimpin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/blimpin/32/80496_2.png) [@Blimpin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Blimpin)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 11:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unexplored-hybrid-designs/422482/7 "2025-04-05T23:59:12Z")
How about wood with metal rings? ---
**Author:** ![kretzschmar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kretzschmar/32/668707_2.png) [@kretzschmar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kretzschmar)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2025, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unexplored-hybrid-designs/422482/8 "2025-04-06T00:01:23Z")
Yoyojam jamboo explored this, would love to see more wood with bearings ---
**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2025, 12:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unexplored-hybrid-designs/422482/9 "2025-04-06T00:03:14Z")
Isn’t the new crucial wood with metal. I pre ordered and forgot lol ---
**Author:** ![kretzschmar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kretzschmar/32/668707_2.png) [@kretzschmar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kretzschmar)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2025, 12:17am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unexplored-hybrid-designs/422482/10 "2025-04-06T00:17:01Z")
I hope it’s amazing and I am sure it will be, didn’t realize it had aluminum weight rings embedded, very cool ---
**Author:** ![yoyospirit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyospirit/32/219875_2.png) [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2025, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unexplored-hybrid-designs/422482/11 "2025-04-06T00:24:37Z")
There have been many brass and plastic hybrids. Yoyojam produced several plastic yoyos with brass rims back in the day. To list a few: Mini Mo-tu Mini Mo-trix Speeder Super and Mega Spinfaktor ---
**Author:** ![SlacKing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f8ce5/32.png) [@SlacKing](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SlacKing)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2025, 1:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unexplored-hybrid-designs/422482/12 "2025-04-06T01:04:09Z")
I actually didn’t realize Mo’s throws were brass from looking at them. I hate that I missed the YYJ era. ---
**Author:** ![cowmamba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/cowmamba/32/270859_2.png) [@cowmamba](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/cowmamba)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2025, 2:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unexplored-hybrid-designs/422482/13 "2025-04-06T02:10:00Z")
The YYJ Black Nova and Doc Pop’s Super scientist were also sporting brass rings if I recall correctly. I don’t think they were anodized aluminum at that time. They also had the Copperhead and Heavy Gravity which were all plastic models that had composite molded rims that contained copper and aluminum powder mixed into the mold to try to add more rim weight. So it was technically a Hybrid of sorts using different metals. It was pretty cool because you could actually get a little sheen when polishing the rims.