# Undersized yoyos?
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/undersized-yoyos/81679
**Category:** General Yo-Yo
**Created:** [August 27, 2016, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/undersized-yoyos/81679 "2016-08-27T11:30:47Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@aidanb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/aidanb)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2016, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/undersized-yoyos/81679/1 "2016-08-27T11:30:47Z")
What high performance undersized yoyos can I buy? I really liked my dv888 and was wondering if I could get something that felt like it, but better. Also, would the sengoku hideyoshi fit my preferences? Its size is kinda big compared to the dv888, but It’s pretty light, and, according to a lot of people, one of the best.
Just recommend anything below 150$ (or max 200$)
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### Author:  [@Coco4304](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Coco4304)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2016, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/undersized-yoyos/81679/2 "2016-08-27T11:33:51Z")
How about a mighty flea? That sure is undersized.
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### Author:  [@aidanb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/aidanb)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2016, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/undersized-yoyos/81679/3 "2016-08-27T11:40:25Z")
lol, that was quick. No thanks, got anything else? I’ve heard that the nobunaga’s great; how does it compare to the hideyoshi?
(You guys could still recommend other yoyos)
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### Author:  [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2016, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/undersized-yoyos/81679/4 "2016-08-27T12:14:27Z")
The hideyoshi and nobunaga aren’t undersized.
You should check out the masamini. It may be smaller than what you’re looking for but its likely better than any other undersized yoyo on the market right now.
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### Author:  [@aidanb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/aidanb)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2016, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/undersized-yoyos/81679/5 "2016-08-27T12:23:29Z")
isn’t the masamini REALLY small though? That 40 mm is scary. Does it really outperform most undersized yoyos in the current market?
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### Author:  [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2016, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/undersized-yoyos/81679/6 "2016-08-27T12:31:40Z")
The massive steel rings on the rims makes it a lot more stable than it looks for the size. Only real disadvantage compared to other undersized yoyos is that it’s narrower, but that should do nothing but help your technique :wink:
Highspeedyoyo has a review on it if you want to check it out.
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### Author:  [@aidanb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/aidanb)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2016, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/undersized-yoyos/81679/7 "2016-08-27T12:41:48Z")
Daamn, that review is pretty compelling; still skeptical though. Can you recommend any other undersized yoyos, or is this really the best? 120$ on a micro/very under sized yoyo is pretty risky
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### Author:  [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2016, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/undersized-yoyos/81679/8 "2016-08-27T13:04:31Z")
There’s not a lot of well-performing undersized yoyos nowadays. I can think of multiple great playing midsized yoyos but I’m coming blank on undersized.
I can’t think of anything that’s in production now but the Markmont.Next is a good one you can find on the bst. The YYR Messiah and Six are probably the best undersized if you can find them.
I’d personally just shoot for the masamini, if anything it’s still a great novelty throw to keep, something unique.
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### Author:  [@aidanb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/aidanb)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2016, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/undersized-yoyos/81679/9 "2016-08-27T13:04:54Z")
Okay, I’m gonna accept mid-size and sizes up to 55 mm. I’m looking for that thunk you hear when you throw it right, I’m looking for speed, and I’m looking for a good finish. I was really disappointed with my berserker ss because it just wasn’t for me. It felt kinda heavy, and that finish is really bad.
I also like how my dv888 and horizon feel cold after staying in an air conditioned room for a long time (not really important, just wanted to share it.)
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### Author:  [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2016, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/undersized-yoyos/81679/10 "2016-08-27T13:27:30Z")
I think you’d like the MFD 2Evil. It’s on the lighter side so it can play fast, and MFD has one of the best finishes for grinding. You might like the Deadly Spins Pride too.
I personally really loved the Cascade but that’s more of a floaty yoyo, sounds like you’re looking for a solid yoyo.
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### Author:  [@aidanb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/aidanb)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2016, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/undersized-yoyos/81679/11 "2016-08-27T13:44:22Z")
> [@andy569](#):
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> I think you’d like the MFD 2Evil. It’s on the lighter side so it can play fast, and MFD has one of the best finishes for grinding. You might like the Deadly Spins Pride too.
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> I personally really loved the Cascade but that’s more of a floaty yoyo, sounds like you’re looking for a solid yoyo.
I’m looking for a chill yoyo that can still play very fast. Haven’t tried any yoyos that would be considered floaty, so I’m not sure if I would like it or not.
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### Author:  [@Cobra](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Cobra)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2016, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/undersized-yoyos/81679/12 "2016-08-27T13:57:45Z")
You may want to look into the Turning Point Houska.
> **[Turning Point](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/Turning-Point?variant=18873359684)**
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> 2009 World Champion Kentaro Kimura is one of the most talented names in yo-yoing. His company, Turning Point, is responsible for innovating the "K-Pad" response which is now the industry standard. His first yo-yo, the Leviathan, quickly became a...
Another to consider is the temporarily sold out Rebellion Lilliputian.
> **[Rebellion](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/rebellion)**
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> Rebellion is a new budget-friendly yo-yo brand powered by high-end Japanese yo-yo manufacturer Yoyorecreation! Everyone wants to have a Yoyorecreation yo-yo, but many simply can't afford them, and that's where Rebellion comes in!
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### Author:  [@aidanb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/aidanb)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2016, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/undersized-yoyos/81679/13 "2016-08-27T14:01:20Z")
> [@Cobra](#):
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> You may want to look into the Turning Point Houska.
> [Turning Point – YoYoExpert](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/turning-point-houska-yoyo?variant=18873359684)
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> Another to consider is the temporarily sold out Rebellion Lilliputian.
> [Rebellion – YoYoExpert](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/rebellion-lilliputian-yoyo)
> **[Houska](https://en.yoyostorerewind.com/products/houska)**
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> Turning Point - Houska
That Houska? If so, then I’m very interested. Not only does it look good, but I can also easily buy it!
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### Author:  [@yyfben2.deactivated](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yyfben2.deactivated)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2016, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/undersized-yoyos/81679/14 "2016-08-27T14:07:31Z")
BOSS
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### Author:  [@Dust](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Dust)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2016, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/undersized-yoyos/81679/15 "2016-08-27T14:14:55Z")
what about the Little Evil 2? that thing was a blast!!
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### Author:  [@aidanb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/aidanb)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2016, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/undersized-yoyos/81679/16 "2016-08-27T14:17:11Z")
> [@InvaderDust](#):
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> what about the Little Evil 2? that thing was a blast!!
I’m considering it too, but I don’t know where to buy it; I live in Asia. The 24 dollar shipping cost is a turn off
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### Author:  [@aidanb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/aidanb)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2016, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/undersized-yoyos/81679/17 "2016-08-27T14:20:23Z")
> [@InvaderDust](#):
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> what about the Little Evil 2? that thing was a blast!!
I’m considering it too, but I don’t know where to buy it; I live in Asia. The 24 dollar shipping cost is a turn off
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### Author:  [@aidanb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/aidanb)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2016, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/undersized-yoyos/81679/18 "2016-08-27T14:25:36Z")
> [@InvaderDust](#):
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> what about the Little Evil 2? that thing was a blast!!
I’m considering it too, but I don’t know where to buy it; I live in Asia. The 24 dollar shipping cost is a turn off
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### Author:  [@Cannon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Cannon)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2016, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/undersized-yoyos/81679/19 "2016-08-27T14:27:49Z")
> [@aidanb](#):
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> I’m considering it too, but I don’t know where to buy it; I live in Asia. The 24 dollar shipping cost is a turn off
Dang, $24!
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### Author:  [@yomega\_fan\_335](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yomega_fan_335)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2016, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/undersized-yoyos/81679/20 "2016-08-27T14:31:19Z")
Anyone forgot the Sturm Panzer PAKFA?
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