# UNDERrated YoYos

**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/underrated-yoyos/28456
**Category:** General Yo-Yo
**Created:** [July 28, 2011, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/underrated-yoyos/28456 "2011-07-28T17:49:18Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![DG1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dg1/32/606_2.png) [@DG1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DG1)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2011, 2:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/underrated-yoyos/28456/61 "2011-12-13T02:38:51Z")

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> [@Swatnoodle](#):
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> > [@Halbach](#):
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> > > [@clywsp94](#):
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> > > I also think the CLYW Canvas is a little underrated. I have the  
> > > Donut Hurdler edition and it is dead smooth. Its fast on the string and it also has an amazing stock response(Snow Tires).
> > 
> > No. It’s not underrated at all
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> > And, no YYF is underrated. Overrated is more like it.
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> Is that so? I don’t see any superstars, supernovas, Genesis, 888, skyline, ETC going for over stock price on the BST. I honestly don’t see where the “overrated” YYF thing is coming from. New yoyoers gravitate towards YYF due to aesthetics and there massive selection of yoyos, and thus they always want the YoYoFactory. That doesn’t make it overrated, it just means YYF is good at business. In fact, I see CLYW’s, VSNyyC, YYR, and multiple other yoyos go for stock price or MORE on the BST. If that’s not overrated, I don’t know what is.

I believe that came out wrong.

However, just because a yoyo doesn’t sell for more than it’s retail doesn’t mean it’s not overrated. I’m not trying to start a war, but demand is different from being overrated.

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### Author: ![I6ify](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/i6ify/32/531_2.png) [@I6ify](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/I6ify)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2011, 5:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/underrated-yoyos/28456/62 "2011-12-13T05:11:19Z")

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Hspin Gorylla

ILYY Mary - it’s so pretty, too!

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### Author: ![Filledwithfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/filledwithfire/32/671_2.png) [@Filledwithfire](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Filledwithfire)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2011, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/underrated-yoyos/28456/63 "2011-12-13T05:32:07Z")

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The YYJ Black Knight

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### Author: ![reezyrice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@reezyrice](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/reezyrice)
#### Post date: [January 5, 2012, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/underrated-yoyos/28456/64 "2012-01-05T07:33:08Z")

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Every YYJoker is underrated. Most General-yos are underrated. The YYF Primo is one of the most underrated throws out there. Most ILYY’s are underrated too. Same thing goes to Werrd.

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### Author: ![kcwagenseller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de0a6/32.png) [@kcwagenseller](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kcwagenseller)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2012, 4:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/underrated-yoyos/28456/65 "2012-01-06T04:43:25Z")

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The Northstar is underrated.

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### Author: ![yoyohockeyman39](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e9bcb4/32.png) [@yoyohockeyman39](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyohockeyman39)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2012, 4:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/underrated-yoyos/28456/66 "2012-01-06T04:52:21Z")

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ilyy enigma so smooth

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### Author: ![PopNFresh\_HDZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b5ac83/32.png) [@PopNFresh\_HDZ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PopNFresh_HDZ)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2012, 5:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/underrated-yoyos/28456/67 "2012-01-06T05:45:04Z")

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Freehand 2010  
Nobody except for beginners owns one, why, because all the experienced players don’t give Duncan the respect they deserve due to their sticker responses and size A bearings.  
For a $15 Yoyo, it’s very legit. Just clean the bearing and put in one Silicone sticker and there you go. If you buy another one and do the same thing, you have a nice 3a pair. Lets not forget the CW included for 5a.  
You see, $15 for the yoyo, $5 for 8 Silicone stickers, you get an great 1a and 5a throw, (not to forget that Freehands are VERY durable) . Also for another $15, you now have a 3a set. In fact if kept stock,you can do 4a with it, or put two silicone stickers in.  
In other words, for 35$, (maybe shipping, Freehand 2010s are very common to find in hobby shops, Toys R Us, etc.) , can have two 1a throws, two 4a throws, two 5a throws, and a 3a set.

And some of you thought that ILYY, YYF, YYJoker, and Hspin was underrated.

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### Author: ![dingo54](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8baadc/32.png) [@dingo54](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dingo54)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2012, 5:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/underrated-yoyos/28456/68 "2012-01-06T05:46:11Z")

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Spyy spead freak

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### Author: ![TheYoYoist101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/theyoyoist101/32/842_2.png) [@TheYoYoist101](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheYoYoist101)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2012, 5:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/underrated-yoyos/28456/69 "2012-01-06T05:53:22Z")

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> [@PopNFresh\_HDZ](#):
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> Freehand 2010  
> Nobody except for beginners owns one, why, because all the experienced players don’t give Duncan the respect they deserve due to their sticker responses and size A bearings.  
> For a $15 Yoyo, it’s very legit. Just clean the bearing and put in one Silicone sticker and there you go. If you buy another one and do the same thing, you have a nice 3a pair. Lets not forget the CW included for 5a.  
> You see, $15 for the yoyo, $5 for 8 Silicone stickers, you get an great 1a and 5a throw, (not to forget that Freehands are VERY durable) . Also for another $15, you now have a 3a set. In fact if kept stock,you can do 4a with it, or put two silicone stickers in.  
> In other words, for 35$, (maybe shipping, Freehand 2010s are very common to find in hobby shops, Toys R Us, etc.) , can have two 1a throws, two 4a throws, two 5a throws, and a 3a set.
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> And some of you thought that ILYY, YYF, YYJoker, and Hspin was underrated.

THANK YOU XAVIER! im gonna go add that to my favorite yoyos right now!

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### Author: ![TheRyanFace](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/theryanface/32/910_2.png) [@TheRyanFace](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheRyanFace)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2012, 7:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/underrated-yoyos/28456/70 "2012-01-06T07:08:45Z")

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> [@PopNFresh\_HDZ](#):
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> Freehand 2010  
> Nobody except for beginners owns one, why, because all the experienced players don’t give Duncan the respect they deserve due to their sticker responses and size A bearings.  
> For a $15 Yoyo, it’s very legit. Just clean the bearing and put in one Silicone sticker and there you go. If you buy another one and do the same thing, you have a nice 3a pair. Lets not forget the CW included for 5a.  
> You see, $15 for the yoyo, $5 for 8 Silicone stickers, you get an great 1a and 5a throw, (not to forget that Freehands are VERY durable) . Also for another $15, you now have a 3a set. In fact if kept stock,you can do 4a with it, or put two silicone stickers in.  
> In other words, for 35$, (maybe shipping, Freehand 2010s are very common to find in hobby shops, Toys R Us, etc.) , can have two 1a throws, two 4a throws, two 5a throws, and a 3a set.
> 
> And some of you thought that ILYY, YYF, YYJoker, and Hspin was underrated.

This post rocked my world. 🙂 Great job!

Aside, on the demand/rating note, it’s hard to say. One can argue that on the BST market, YYFs sell for less than what they retail for because there’s a lot of them (low demand). Or this can also be interpreted as people deciding that they’re not “keepers.” Therefore, if they’re not keepers, they don’t like them that much and would let them go for cheaper (overrated). I can see it both ways, so it’s hard to tell.

Personally, I think of this G5 that the Capt sold me recently. I’ve been playing it this past week, and I’ve really been having a lot of fun with it. They sell for relatively cheap on BSTs and are common, but I’m leaning towards saying that the G5 is underrated because it seems like a lot of people are willing to let it go.

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### Author: ![I6ify](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/i6ify/32/531_2.png) [@I6ify](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/I6ify)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2012, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/underrated-yoyos/28456/71 "2012-01-06T16:47:47Z")

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> [@PopNFresh\_HDZ](#):
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> Freehand 2010  
> Nobody except for beginners owns one, why, because all the experienced players don’t give Duncan the respect they deserve due to their sticker responses and size A bearings.  
> For a $15 Yoyo, it’s very legit. Just clean the bearing and put in one Silicone sticker and there you go. If you buy another one and do the same thing, you have a nice 3a pair. Lets not forget the CW included for 5a.  
> You see, $15 for the yoyo, $5 for 8 Silicone stickers, you get an great 1a and 5a throw, (not to forget that Freehands are VERY durable) . Also for another $15, you now have a 3a set. In fact if kept stock,you can do 4a with it, or put two silicone stickers in.  
> In other words, for 35$, (maybe shipping, Freehand 2010s are very common to find in hobby shops, Toys R Us, etc.) , can have two 1a throws, two 4a throws, two 5a throws, and a 3a set.
> 
> And some of you thought that ILYY, YYF, YYJoker, and Hspin was underrated.

I prefer the FHZ, but I was very impressed by my FH2010, and I think it’s completely off to say: “all the experienced players don’t give Duncan the respect they deserve due to their sticker responses and size A bearings.” There are lots of videos of people doing amazing stuff on FHZs and other Duncan yoyos, like the Raptor and Metropolis, to name a few. If you think Duncan isn’t respected, then I’d like to see a company you DO think is respected.

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### Author: ![TheYoYoist101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/theyoyoist101/32/842_2.png) [@TheYoYoist101](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheYoYoist101)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2012, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/underrated-yoyos/28456/72 "2012-01-06T17:14:48Z")

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> [@I6ify](#):
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> > [@PopNFresh\_HDZ](#):
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> > Freehand 2010  
> > Nobody except for beginners owns one, why, because all the experienced players don’t give Duncan the respect they deserve due to their sticker responses and size A bearings.  
> > For a $15 Yoyo, it’s very legit. Just clean the bearing and put in one Silicone sticker and there you go. If you buy another one and do the same thing, you have a nice 3a pair. Lets not forget the CW included for 5a.  
> > You see, $15 for the yoyo, $5 for 8 Silicone stickers, you get an great 1a and 5a throw, (not to forget that Freehands are VERY durable) . Also for another $15, you now have a 3a set. In fact if kept stock,you can do 4a with it, or put two silicone stickers in.  
> > In other words, for 35$, (maybe shipping, Freehand 2010s are very common to find in hobby shops, Toys R Us, etc.) , can have two 1a throws, two 4a throws, two 5a throws, and a 3a set.
> > 
> > And some of you thought that ILYY, YYF, YYJoker, and Hspin was underrated.
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> I prefer the FHZ, but I was very impressed by my FH2010, and I think it’s completely off to say: “all the experienced players don’t give Duncan the respect they deserve due to their sticker responses and size A bearings.” There are lots of videos of people doing amazing stuff on FHZs and other Duncan yoyos, like the Raptor and Metropolis, to name a few. If you think Duncan isn’t respected, then I’d like to see a company you DO think is respected.

he wasnt saying duncan didnt get respect cause they do hes saying that the FH2010 dosnt get a lot of respect. hope this helps.

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### Author: ![Filledwithfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/filledwithfire/32/671_2.png) [@Filledwithfire](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Filledwithfire)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2012, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/underrated-yoyos/28456/73 "2012-01-06T20:22:27Z")

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THE SHINWOO TECHNO IS THE GREATEST PLASTIC EVER!!!

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### Author: ![AngryGumball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/angrygumball/32/683872_2.png) [@AngryGumball](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AngryGumball)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2012, 4:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/underrated-yoyos/28456/74 "2012-01-07T04:44:02Z")

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> [@PopNFresh\_HDZ](#):
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> Freehand 2010  
> Nobody except for beginners owns one, why, because all the experienced players don’t give Duncan the respect they deserve due to their sticker responses and size A bearings.  
> For a $15 Yoyo, it’s very legit. Just clean the bearing and put in one Silicone sticker and there you go. If you buy another one and do the same thing, you have a nice 3a pair. Lets not forget the CW included for 5a.  
> You see, $15 for the yoyo, $5 for 8 Silicone stickers, you get an great 1a and 5a throw, (not to forget that Freehands are VERY durable) . Also for another $15, you now have a 3a set. In fact if kept stock,you can do 4a with it, or put two silicone stickers in.  
> In other words, for 35$, (maybe shipping, Freehand 2010s are very common to find in hobby shops, Toys R Us, etc.) , can have two 1a throws, two 4a throws, two 5a throws, and a 3a set.
> 
> And some of you thought that ILYY, YYF, YYJoker, and Hspin was underrated.

Freehands…I have like 3 of these things, extremely great yoyos for the money, stable and smooth. I’m tempted to pick up a 4th one, one of the other freakhand ones to match the freakhand shirt I have. Unfortunately, I don’t seem to give these enough attention, mainly because I’m too lazy to get new response pads for them. I do however recommend them for people looking for a first yoyo.

On the topic of Duncan, there was a lot of hype for the Raptor but I haven’t seen much for the Echo (which is a must have in my opinion). I’ve only seen a tiny handful of reviews here, including mine.

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### Author: ![I6ify](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/i6ify/32/531_2.png) [@I6ify](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/I6ify)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2012, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/underrated-yoyos/28456/75 "2012-01-07T08:34:01Z")

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> [@TheYoYoist101](#):
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> he wasnt saying duncan didnt get respect cause they do hes saying that the FH2010 dosnt get a lot of respect. hope this helps.

> [@PopNFresh\_HDZ](#):
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> all the experienced players don’t give Duncan the respect they deserve due to their sticker responses and size A bearings.

I know this isn’t the topic, but… Seems like he is talking about Duncan, not the FH2010…

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### Author: ![PopNFresh\_HDZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b5ac83/32.png) [@PopNFresh\_HDZ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PopNFresh_HDZ)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2012, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/underrated-yoyos/28456/76 "2012-01-07T09:45:30Z")

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> [@I6ify](#):
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> > [@TheYoYoist101](#):
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> > he wasnt saying duncan didnt get respect cause they do hes saying that the FH2010 dosnt get a lot of respect. hope this helps.
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> > [@PopNFresh\_HDZ](#):
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> > all the experienced players don’t give Duncan the respect they deserve due to their sticker responses and size A bearings.
> 
> I know this isn’t the topic, but… Seems like he is talking about Duncan, not the FH2010…

I’m not talking about the Screaming Eagle, Echo, Raptor, etc, when I meant Duncan.  
I’m talking about people going off and buying anything else that isn’t Duncan. Think of it, how many people at an experience level actually consider buying an FH 2010, now how many people consider buying something not Duncan (Screaming Eagle and De-Luxxe doesn’t count) other than the FHZ.

Why not the FHZ, because everyone buys them modded or to mod them. Yes, I am aware that FHZ don’t need to be modded to be legit just a few upgrades, I know by experience, with that said, compare people who only buy FHZs to be modded or to become modded, against people who simply upgrade, the answer is obvious.

Now think, why not choose a Duncan FH 2010? Great price, full size, good weight to it, included CW, it now comes pre-recessed.What I noticed that draws people away is the response and the bearing.  
When it comes to YYF, Hspin, etc, people choose their throws in a heartbeat. I don’t mean that their Yoyos are bad and the FH 2010 is the best Yoyo ever, it’s just that this is why the FH 2010 is so underrated, people don’t even think of the FH 2010.  
You know I should review this.

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### Author: ![zerrubabbel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zerrubabbel/32/592_2.png) [@zerrubabbel](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zerrubabbel)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2012, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/underrated-yoyos/28456/77 "2012-01-07T12:06:43Z")

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> [@PopNFresh\_HDZ](#):
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> Freehand 2010  
> Nobody except for beginners owns one, why, because all the experienced players don’t give Duncan the respect they deserve due to their sticker responses and size A bearings.  
> For a $15 Yoyo, it’s very legit. Just clean the bearing and put in one Silicone sticker and there you go. If you buy another one and do the same thing, you have a nice 3a pair. Lets not forget the CW included for 5a.  
> You see, $15 for the yoyo, $5 for 8 Silicone stickers, you get an great 1a and 5a throw, (not to forget that Freehands are VERY durable) . Also for another $15, you now have a 3a set. In fact if kept stock,you can do 4a with it, or put two silicone stickers in.  
> In other words, for 35$, (maybe shipping, Freehand 2010s are very common to find in hobby shops, Toys R Us, etc.) , can have two 1a throws, two 4a throws, two 5a throws, and a 3a set.
> 
> And some of you thought that ILYY, YYF, YYJoker, and Hspin was underrated.

as long as i can sili, i dont really care about the stickers. but i will not deal with an A sized bearing, just because theyre such a pain to open… i dont even really like dealing with C, but ill take a C anyday… i guess its just a pet peeve of mine

i would like to say the ronin is under rated… go buy one

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### Author: ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)
#### Post date: [January 8, 2012, 2:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/underrated-yoyos/28456/78 "2012-01-08T02:14:04Z")

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Everything from Ten yo! Roo let me try out lots of stuff at VA states. Great guy, great yoyos!

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#### Post date: [January 8, 2012, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/underrated-yoyos/28456/79 "2012-01-08T21:43:32Z")

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I think the dif-e-yo wide load is a tad under-rated, and I love it to no end. I do argue that some of duncan’s plastics are under-rated, I love my freehand, i loved my metal zero when I had it, and the Hayabusa is quite nice. I also think the original run of the Yoyojam fiesta (Not xx) was not as loved as it should’ve been. Mine plays great, and has helped me learn a lot of offstring tricks thanks to its beast sleep time with a stock bearing.

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### Author: ![yoyodude7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/278dde/32.png) [@yoyodude7](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyodude7)
#### Post date: [January 9, 2012, 2:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/underrated-yoyos/28456/80 "2012-01-09T02:30:03Z")

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idk but 401k is a little under rated

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