# Turning Point question

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/turning-point-question/66453>\
**Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\
**Created:** [May 22, 2014, 11:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/turning-point-question/66453 "2014-05-22T23:11:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![Sanchez202](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@Sanchez202](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Sanchez202)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2014, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/turning-point-question/66453/21 "2014-05-23T19:57:24Z")

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> [@Shai\_Hulud](#):
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> I’m speculating here, but I imagine the reason that competitive American players use One Drops and CLYWs more than YYR (though some are on YYR like Samm Scott) or TP is because they are more likely to get sponsored by English-speaking shops than Japanese ones. And once you’re sponsored you’re pretty much stuck with that company until you leave.
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> Anyway about the Isotope 2, it’s gotta be great for slacks because Takeshi Matsuura just won Japan Nationals with it doing tons of slack tricks.

The isotope 2 has some crazy power! I thought the draupnir had some power, but the isotope 2 raised the bar higher.

I don’t think a yoyo itself plays as much of a role in slack tricks as string length and the string itself. Just saying :wink: Unless we’re talking about rejection tricks, because the shape of the yoyo itself can dramatically affect how the string pops out of the gap.

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**Author:** ![Yoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/41988e/32.png) [@Yoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyo)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2014, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/turning-point-question/66453/22 "2014-05-23T20:34:14Z")

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> [@yoyo\_yizzo](#):
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> wt crap is a fun yoyo?

What the crap? A fun yoyo is an enjoyable yoyo.

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**Author:** ![yoyo\_yizzo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/9de053/32.png) [@yoyo\_yizzo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyo_yizzo)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2014, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/turning-point-question/66453/23 "2014-05-23T21:55:45Z")

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> [@Yoyo](#):
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> What the crap? A fun yoyo is an enjoyable yoyo.

lol fun there should be some other name then to call a yoyo fun lol unless it does its own trick

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**Author:** ![Yoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/41988e/32.png) [@Yoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyo)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2014, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/turning-point-question/66453/24 "2014-05-23T22:41:47Z")

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> [@yoyo\_yizzo](#):
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> lol fun there should be some other name then to call a yoyo fun lol unless it does its own trick

Ok

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**Author:** ![abby1371](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/abby1371/32/1075_2.png) [@abby1371](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/abby1371)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2014, 11:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/turning-point-question/66453/25 "2014-05-23T23:54:22Z")

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There awesome my TP paranoid is dead smooth, and looks beautiful. From my experiences they have some amazing and pricy yoyos.

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**Author:** ![Shai\_Hulud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shai_hulud/32/1521_2.png) [@Shai\_Hulud](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shai_Hulud)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 1:50am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/turning-point-question/66453/26 "2014-05-25T01:50:59Z")

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> [@Sanchez202](#):
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> I don’t think a yoyo itself plays as much of a role in slack tricks as string length and the string itself. Just saying :wink: Unless we’re talking about rejection tricks, because the shape of the yoyo itself can dramatically affect how the string pops out of the gap.

The gap width and response have to be relevant. You’d want a less responsive yoyo if doing lots of slacks, right? And the Draupnir is pretty responsive. I’m guessing this is why Akitoshi Tokubuchi had YYR make a wider gapped Draupnir, to suit his style.

But anyway, I’m not really arguing that. I don’t know much about slack tricks TBH. They’re not used much in 5A. I was just responding to something said by Raptor T:

" It [sic, referring to CLYW and OD throws] also not only suited for availability but also for style: as Asian players like the Draunir more because it has speed stability and long spin times. In the US, it varies there are somsome who like do more intricate slack tricks, and some who put more speed to them."

To me this statement implied CLYW and OD are better for slack tricks than popular Japanese competition yoyos.

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