# Turning Point presents - The Jason Liu Zichen signature KIWI! **URL:** \ **Category:** YoYoExpert Releases and Restocks\ **Created:** [March 18, 2022, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/turning-point-presents-the-jason-liu-zichen-signature-kiwi/354354 "2022-03-18T17:31:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![YoYoExpertGarrett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoexpertgarrett/32/1543_2.png) [@YoYoExpertGarrett](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoExpertGarrett)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/turning-point-presents-the-jason-liu-zichen-signature-kiwi/354354/1 "2022-03-18T17:31:37Z")
This new release from Turning Point is the latest signature model for China National Champion Jason Liu Zichen - The Kiwi! ![Kiwi-Aqua-1_1024x1024](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/f/5/1/f515509dbaab407c6a5c58475ec8fbb6ecd2f7e1.webp) ![Kiwi-Aqua-2_1024x1024](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/d/3/c/d3c2d64477d0a023683c0aa2189f52fd25f76a13.webp) The Kiwi is modeled after Jason’s previous signature yoyo, the Collapsar, but takes a new approach to the heavyweight design in a mono-metal form. A good 10g heavier than your average yoyo, the Kiwi take a little getting used to, but once you do it is a phenomenal player. It has incredible power and surprisingly easy acceleration and agility for whatever you can throw at it. ![Kiwi-Extra2](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/1/7/c170ae59b77ec65a145e6df633a3ff4bba4be6fb.jpeg) At 76g and with very close specs to the bi-metal Collapsar, the Kiwi offers a similar play experience at a much more approachable price. If you’re looking to try out a heavier throw then this is an excellent option! > **[Turning Point](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/turning-point)** > > 2009 World Champion Kentaro Kimura is one of the most talented names in yo-yoing. His company, Turning Point, is responsible for innovating the "K-Pad" response which is now the industry standard. His first yo-yo, the Leviathan, quickly became a... ---
**Author:** ![hobbygod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hobbygod/32/120997_2.png) [@hobbygod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobbygod)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/turning-point-presents-the-jason-liu-zichen-signature-kiwi/354354/2 "2022-03-18T19:47:52Z")
When is this releasing ? ---
**Author:** ![YoYoExpertGarrett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoexpertgarrett/32/1543_2.png) [@YoYoExpertGarrett](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoExpertGarrett)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/turning-point-presents-the-jason-liu-zichen-signature-kiwi/354354/3 "2022-03-18T19:51:36Z")
Kiwi is online now edit… Sold out now\* ---
**Author:** ![YoYoExpertGarrett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoexpertgarrett/32/1543_2.png) [@YoYoExpertGarrett](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoExpertGarrett)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/turning-point-presents-the-jason-liu-zichen-signature-kiwi/354354/4 "2022-03-18T19:53:48Z")
We definitely underestimated the demand on this one. We’ll do a countdown if/when we get more. ---
**Author:** ![hobbygod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hobbygod/32/120997_2.png) [@hobbygod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobbygod)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/turning-point-presents-the-jason-liu-zichen-signature-kiwi/354354/5 "2022-03-18T20:38:13Z")
Lmao all good. Was on the fence anyway ---
**Author:** ![Isaac](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/isaac/32/597931_2.png) [@Isaac](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Isaac)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/turning-point-presents-the-jason-liu-zichen-signature-kiwi/354354/6 "2022-03-18T20:39:46Z")
Same. 76g is quite heavy, though I suppose $90 is a cheaper way to try it than a $200+ Collapsar. Would be interesting to hear someone’s opinion comparing the two since the Collapsar has titanium rings which would help spread the weight out more vs the Kiwi being monometa. ---
**Author:** ![Ducto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Ducto](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Ducto)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2022, 2:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/turning-point-presents-the-jason-liu-zichen-signature-kiwi/354354/7 "2022-03-19T02:37:11Z")
If anything, the weight will have a wider distribution for the Kiwi ---
**Author:** ![Isaac](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/isaac/32/597931_2.png) [@Isaac](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Isaac)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2022, 2:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/turning-point-presents-the-jason-liu-zichen-signature-kiwi/354354/8 "2022-03-19T02:48:11Z")
Ah, that’s a good point. I was thinking stainless steel rims vs titanium rims when it’s rims vs no rims.