# True Pain - These Newfangled YoYos **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [June 30, 2023, 1:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/true-pain-these-newfangled-yoyos/379059 "2023-06-30T01:08:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 15
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It isn’t flowable so it is a little bit more difficult to apply than that because it won’t self level but it’s not hard and imo worth it. you can use flowable also and add a recess to it with the corner of a credit card to get a response less responsive than flat flowable. Here is the topic that should be renamed to Ultra Grey Appreciation. It’s long but there’s a ton of good info in here. > [@Permatex 22074 Ultra Grey for very unresponsive return system](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/permatex-22074-ultra-grey-for-very-unresponsive-return-system/374904): > > Hello everyone, First of all thanks to @mable to introduce me to this silicone (which also has better pictures), second sorry for my awful pictures and application I did not used silicone from ages. Let’s start from the beginning: I used to use the Motorsil D while living in Italy, it was a quite good silicone and quite unresponsive also easy to apply, moved in London I had to start use pads cause impossible to find that silicone here. From pads I always felt that I had quite an harsh respon… --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/true-pain-these-newfangled-yoyos/379059)._