# Trouble with landing yoyo on string with Eli Hop

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**Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks\
**Created:** [January 10, 2015, 12:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trouble-with-landing-yoyo-on-string-with-eli-hop/71854 "2015-01-10T00:51:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![LeDave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ledave/32/1590_2.png) [@LeDave](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LeDave)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 12:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trouble-with-landing-yoyo-on-string-with-eli-hop/71854/1 "2015-01-10T00:51:43Z")

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Hey, I’ve been practicing for a few hours total today now. I am learning a new trick. Every time I pop the yoyo up in the air to do a Eli Hop, it’s a hit or miss with about a 35 percent chance of landing back down on the string. Yoyo is either too far the left or too short to the right, at times it lands centered and catches the string. Any tips on improving that?

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**Author:** ![kadabrium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kadabrium/32/1522_2.png) [@kadabrium](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kadabrium)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 12:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trouble-with-landing-yoyo-on-string-with-eli-hop/71854/2 "2015-01-10T00:53:52Z")

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you have to accually try and take aim consciously at the yoyo with your th

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**Author:** ![LeDave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ledave/32/1590_2.png) [@LeDave](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LeDave)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trouble-with-landing-yoyo-on-string-with-eli-hop/71854/3 "2015-01-10T00:55:15Z")

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> [@kadabrium](#):
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> you have to accually try and take aim consciously at the yoyo with your th

The yoyo is moving quite fast. It’s hard to aim for it.

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**Author:** ![lukas412](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@lukas412](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/lukas412)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 1:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trouble-with-landing-yoyo-on-string-with-eli-hop/71854/4 "2015-01-10T01:27:24Z")

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The trick is keeping the string tight and landing with your NTH very close to the yoyo. Try pushing on the string to pull the yoyo down.

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**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 2:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trouble-with-landing-yoyo-on-string-with-eli-hop/71854/5 "2015-01-10T02:37:25Z")

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Aiming? Nah. I can land Eli Hops consistently without looking at all. I’m sure there’s a teeny bit of hand-eye (I would get scared trying to land them blindfolded!!) but it’s mostly about accelerating the yoyo directly toward the string.

How do you do that? What lukas412 said. Pull your hands apart to create tension on the segments, which will make them “want” to align. Once you have the confidence in your muscle memory so that you won’t get nasty string burn, pull apart with enough speed and confidence and it’ll actually be hard to MISS.

But in the early days, you’re best to err on the side of caution… that string burn can be narsty!

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**Author:** ![LeDave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ledave/32/1590_2.png) [@LeDave](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LeDave)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 2:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trouble-with-landing-yoyo-on-string-with-eli-hop/71854/6 "2015-01-10T02:39:52Z")

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Thanks a bunch guys! Will test out my new learned techniques from you guys tomorrow morning.

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**Author:** ![That-one-kid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/0ea827/32.png) [@That-one-kid](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/That-one-kid)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 6:50am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trouble-with-landing-yoyo-on-string-with-eli-hop/71854/7 "2015-01-10T06:50:43Z")

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> [@GregP](#):
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> Aiming? Nah. I can land Eli Hops consistently without looking at all. I’m sure there’s a teeny bit of hand-eye (I would get scared trying to land them blindfolded!!) but it’s mostly about accelerating the yoyo directly toward the string.
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> How do you do that? What lukas412 said. Pull your hands apart to create tension on the segments, which will make them “want” to align. Once you have the confidence in your muscle memory so that you won’t get nasty string burn, pull apart with enough speed and confidence and it’ll actually be hard to MISS.
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> But in the early days, you’re best to err on the side of caution… that string burn can be narsty!

I do blind folded combos all the time and Eli hops is one of the easier ones. XD suicides suck mad blind folded.

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**Author:** ![kadabrium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kadabrium/32/1522_2.png) [@kadabrium](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kadabrium)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2015, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trouble-with-landing-yoyo-on-string-with-eli-hop/71854/8 "2015-01-10T12:41:26Z")

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I mean when you learn to make a connection between the movement of NTH and the corresponding result position of the yoyo you have to look at the yoyo and adjust the placement of the base string accordingly. eventually with experience you can tell where the yoyo is just from the feel you got while hopping up.  
I have forgotten how I learned the basic hops, but even recently when working on the variations (circular hops, BTB, 1.5 mount hops, inverted hops) I often find that if I miss it s always to the same side of the string.

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**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2015, 3:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trouble-with-landing-yoyo-on-string-with-eli-hop/71854/9 "2015-01-11T03:38:15Z")

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> [@kadabrium](#):
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> I mean when you learn to make a connection between the movement of NTH and the corresponding result position of the yoyo you have to look at the yoyo and adjust the placement of the base string accordingly. eventually with experience you can tell where the yoyo is just from the feel you got while hopping up.  
> I have forgotten how I learned the basic hops, but even recently when working on the variations (circular hops, BTB, 1.5 mount hops, inverted hops) I often find that if I miss it s always to the same side of the string.

Yeah, sometimes you need to adjust. But with the right amount of tension you shouldn’t need to move the base string (good name for it!) at all. I do admit to minor adjustments more when I’m playing super-conservative to avoid string burns. But usually the tension just automatically takes care of it.

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**Author:** ![LeDave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ledave/32/1590_2.png) [@LeDave](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LeDave)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2015, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trouble-with-landing-yoyo-on-string-with-eli-hop/71854/10 "2015-01-11T18:09:24Z")

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> [@kadabrium](#):
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> you have to accually try and take aim consciously at the yoyo with your th

OMG, you are so right. Thanks a bunch. Aiming it downwards onto the string makes it so much easier to catch onto the string, I am landing most of my Eli Hops now.

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**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 1:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trouble-with-landing-yoyo-on-string-with-eli-hop/71854/11 "2015-01-12T01:34:05Z")

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Haha! Well… dang… different strokes for different folks! Unless it’s a visualization/mental thing and “aiming it down” is causing the increased tension that ties into what I’m talking about. Maybe we’ve been talking about two sides of the same coin. :wink:
