# trouble with binding.
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trouble-with-binding/5703
**Category:** General Yo-Yo
**Created:** [August 22, 2009, 1:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trouble-with-binding/5703 "2009-08-22T01:46:37Z")
**Posts on this page:** 9
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### Author:  [@jtman562](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jtman562)
#### Post date: [August 22, 2009, 1:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trouble-with-binding/5703/1 "2009-08-22T01:46:37Z")
ok so in can bind ok and i can get the yoyo back in my hand but i get a knot almost everytime. what am i doing wrong?
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### Author:  [@Paolo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Paolo)
#### Post date: [August 22, 2009, 1:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trouble-with-binding/5703/2 "2009-08-22T01:48:43Z")
It shouldn’t get a knot EVERY time. But ocasionally is normal. Try to expirement.
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### Author:  [@hometowne96](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hometowne96)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2009, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trouble-with-binding/5703/3 "2009-08-24T17:08:57Z")
im going to assume that u r using the brain twister mount bind return i had the same problem u did an switched to the trapeze bind return u can use this for a sleeper or breakaway i get knots using the trapeze bind about once every 200 times
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### Author:  [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2009, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trouble-with-binding/5703/4 "2009-08-24T17:39:16Z")
You may be throwing too much string into the gap. Sometimes it tends to end up in knots that way.
Which bind are you using?
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### Author:  [@j4dude](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/j4dude)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2009, 3:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trouble-with-binding/5703/5 "2009-08-25T03:23:17Z")
well if u trapeze bind (from foward style) the loop on your finger can fall over into the gap of the yoyo giving it a knot =P
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### Author:  [@yoyomaster242](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyomaster242)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2009, 3:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trouble-with-binding/5703/6 "2009-08-25T03:26:45Z")
i found that this bind doesnt give me much trouble
[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDTuvqVD224)
the first one
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### Author:  [@rsmod123](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rsmod123)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2009, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trouble-with-binding/5703/7 "2009-08-25T11:18:57Z")
Make sure you are doing backspin binds, and don’t use too big of a loop.
Frontspin binds tend to get knots more often, which is why you see that whenever Andre does a rolling bind, he throws it down once before he throws hard.
[http://vimeo.com/1713012](http://vimeo.com/1713012)
When you do sleepers, use an overmount bind. (trapeze)
When doing breakaways, use an undermount bind. (Braintwister)
The video above that yoyomaster242 posted is helpful too.
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### Author:  [@jtman562](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jtman562)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2009, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trouble-with-binding/5703/8 "2009-08-25T17:55:31Z")
thx guy i was doing the brain twister one guess i misunderstood the binding tutorial.
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### Author:  [@fusion777](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/fusion777)
#### Post date: [August 26, 2009, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trouble-with-binding/5703/9 "2009-08-26T15:14:35Z")
If you make the loop too big, it can flop over into the gap of your string backwards… Try not to make the loop so big.