### Author:  [@mabulrub](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mabulrub)
#### Post date: [January 23, 2013, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trifecta/47969/21 "2013-01-23T09:54:29Z")
I have a Trifecta bearing and it plays very well with my HOUR, i replaced it with the original one that came with it. I have been throwing for 3 or 4 months only. But i can say it with confidence that it plays with my HOUR better than the original one.
If any one says otherwise based on his long experience that flat bearings plays the same as grooved or concave ones then this must be because of his long experience that this difference does not affect his level of play. but for most of people who is not that well experienced it makes a difference.
Now i have re tried couple of weeks ago to play with a flat bearing on a DM2 but i was not happy as i am with the concave one that is fitted on it now.
Back to the Bearing what makes it really a good one is the spin time rather than any other spec… spin times are less affected by experience that other specs although to some extent it is affected ( the throw strength and technique would definitely affect spin times )…
After all it is a Great bearing and i love it.
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### Author:  [@Athr3e](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Athr3e)
#### Post date: [January 24, 2013, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trifecta/47969/22 "2013-01-24T00:52:01Z")
> [@yoyodoc](#):
>
> So basically, performance was sacrificed so that the name would fit the bearing and the bearing would fit the name?
>
> Actually, I think the plan was interesting and kinda creative, but technically falls kinda flat in ‘real world yoyo bearing functionality’.
>
> Unless you are going for some kinda sleep record, the groove is counterproductive(potentially limiting immediate lateral movements of the string)(partially dependent on string tension).
>
> Note\> the exception being an original concern addressed by Paul Yath. One of the reasons Paul came up with the Crucial bearing groove was simple. By combining a concave type of outer race with ‘the groove’, Paul got his 3a yoyos to sync better. \< 3A isn’t a sleeping Contest, but Paul wanted to get the most spin time on his 3A combos and keeping the strings away from the walls of the yoyos was a step in the right direction.
>
> But for 1a play, the groove feature, on a scale of 1 to 10, is a lot closer to zero in function.
>
> If you love your Trifecta bearings, that is Great! If you want to put them in all your yoyos, good for you. If you have convinced yourself that the bearing plays better and would be worse without the groove, that is fine too. \
> But if you actually think that the groove has an advantage in 1A play, then just be personally satisfied that ‘dreaming’ can be a good thing too, if it helps you relax.
>
> If any 1A players have brainwashed themselves into a view very opposite to mine, chime in and I will post up a more Technical view on why the groove falls flat.
>
> Class may begin soon…
>
> PS… A few things that should be noted\>
>
> I have a Deadly Spins Wrath. I love the yoyo. I think it is one of the very best examples of yoyo performance design. The: shape/weight/weight distribution/width/ergonomic feel, all blend together seamlessly into something that needs ‘no modding’ that I can think of.
>
> The Wrath comes stock with a Trifecta bearing. The bearing works soo well in the yoyo, that I refuse to change the ‘recipe’. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. \< you won’t hear me say that very often, if ever.
> I have a few Trifecta bearings and I have noticed that the depth of the grooves seems to vary. The one in this Wrath is very very shallow. So, if there is any groove in a bearing, to me, this shallow one is preferred.
>
> So there can be exceptions. Even to somebody that prolly likes Trifectas less than anybody else.
>
> My little technical oratories are posted for your information and awareness. They are not necessarily meant to change your choice of bearings or your buying habits. But then again, I think Jen should drop the groove and just call it the Perfecta bearing.
>
> The main mission in yoing is to have fun.
>
> I think most people use flat bearings anyways, and the World hasn’t come to any kind of abrupt Stop because of it.
i’ve noticed that because(i think) the string is kept dead center and cannot move; that it tends to actually push the string closer to the response when there is more than one segment of string in the gap. even though the outside edges of the play surface are concaved( too keep the string away from response), i find that it still likes to catch ,wich slows the rpms down allot… what do you think( anyone)
???
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### Author:  [@Elluzion](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Elluzion)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2013, 6:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trifecta/47969/23 "2013-01-26T06:24:45Z")
Got a trifecta on my wrath and man is it awesome or what!
I am used to a 10 ball and having the concaveness of the bearing with that is just a perfect combination!
\<3
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### Author:  [@SloppyBinds](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SloppyBinds)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2013, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trifecta/47969/24 "2013-01-28T22:40:58Z")
Definitely interested in trying one of these out. I have ceramic KKs, regular steel KKs, ceramic Terrapins, OD ten balls, etc. So far my favorites have always been ceramic KKs and the different steel concave that comes with YoYoRecreations. Don’t care for the Terrapins as I’d rather just use a flat bearing or get real string centering from the KK, but the groove on the Trifecta looks to be more effective especially in combination with the concave shape so I’m intrigued.
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### Author:  [@Motley07](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Motley07)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2013, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trifecta/47969/25 "2013-01-28T23:06:07Z")
> [@TheOneInOrange](#):
>
> I wish my trifecta was quite ☹
It’s quite expensive I know. But from all the good things said about it, I’m buying one or two asap.
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### Author:  [@phil\_the\_lizard](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/phil_the_lizard)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2013, 5:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trifecta/47969/26 "2013-01-29T05:43:17Z")
> [@yoyodoc](#):
>
> So basically, performance was sacrificed so that the name would fit the bearing and the bearing would fit the name?
>
> Actually, I think the plan was interesting and kinda creative, but technically falls kinda flat in ‘real world yoyo bearing functionality’.
>
> Unless you are going for some kinda sleep record, the groove is counterproductive(potentially limiting immediate lateral movements of the string)(partially dependent on string tension).
>
> Note\> the exception being an original concern addressed by Paul Yath. One of the reasons Paul came up with the Crucial bearing groove was simple. By combining a concave type of outer race with ‘the groove’, Paul got his 3a yoyos to sync better. \< 3A isn’t a sleeping Contest, but Paul wanted to get the most spin time on his 3A combos and keeping the strings away from the walls of the yoyos was a step in the right direction.
>
> But for 1a play, the groove feature, on a scale of 1 to 10, is a lot closer to zero in function.
>
> If you love your Trifecta bearings, that is Great! If you want to put them in all your yoyos, good for you. If you have convinced yourself that the bearing plays better and would be worse without the groove, that is fine too. \
> But if you actually think that the groove has an advantage in 1A play, then just be personally satisfied that ‘dreaming’ can be a good thing too, if it helps you relax.
>
> If any 1A players have brainwashed themselves into a view very opposite to mine, chime in and I will post up a more Technical view on why the groove falls flat.
>
> Class may begin soon…
>
> PS… A few things that should be noted\>
>
> I have a Deadly Spins Wrath. I love the yoyo. I think it is one of the very best examples of yoyo performance design. The: shape/weight/weight distribution/width/ergonomic feel, all blend together seamlessly into something that needs ‘no modding’ that I can think of.
>
> The Wrath comes stock with a Trifecta bearing. The bearing works soo well in the yoyo, that I refuse to change the ‘recipe’. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. \< you won’t hear me say that very often, if ever.
> I have a few Trifecta bearings and I have noticed that the depth of the grooves seems to vary. The one in this Wrath is very very shallow. So, if there is any groove in a bearing, to me, this shallow one is preferred.
>
> So there can be exceptions. Even to somebody that prolly likes Trifectas less than anybody else.
>
> My little technical oratories are posted for your information and awareness. They are not necessarily meant to change your choice of bearings or your buying habits. But then again, I think Jen should drop the groove and just call it the Perfecta bearing.
>
> The main mission in yoing is to have fun.
>
> I think most people use flat bearings anyways, and the World hasn’t come to any kind of abrupt Stop because of it.
I actually think that what you are saying is quite reasonable about the lateral movement. I am just wondering: would a ten ball center trac bearing interest you? Because I am thinking that it sounds pretty sweet. Don’t get me wrong, I live my trifecta, but only in the right throws, and my center tracs are my go to bearings… So why not have the best of both worlds?
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### Author:  [@888alltheway](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/888alltheway)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2013, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trifecta/47969/27 "2013-01-29T05:57:12Z")
Instead of the groove on the Trifecta, I’d think a groove similar to one on the YYR DoubleStraight Bearing would be the best.
That bearing’s shape is killer!
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### Author:  [@yuki\_onitsura](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yuki_onitsura)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2013, 6:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trifecta/47969/28 "2013-01-29T06:11:37Z")
I like the look and idea of YYR’s double straight bearing but the price seems a bit much.
Yuki
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### Author:  [@Elluzion](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Elluzion)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2013, 11:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trifecta/47969/29 "2013-01-29T23:50:01Z")
Hey guys recently it seems my trifecta is locking up on me. It will make like a click noise once in a while and then it completely stops spinning and makes my yoyo act like a fixed axle.
Has anyone experienced this? Its a fairly new bearing, havent hit anything with it or anything…
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### Author:  [@yuki\_onitsura](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yuki_onitsura)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2013, 11:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trifecta/47969/30 "2013-01-29T23:59:09Z")
> [@Elluzion](#):
>
> Hey guys recently it seems my trifecta is locking up on me. It will make like a click noise once in a while and then it completely stops spinning and makes my yoyo act like a fixed axle.
>
> Has anyone experienced this? Its a fairly new bearing, havent hit anything with it or anything…
Could just be a bit of grit that found its way into the bearing. Pop the bearing sheilds off and give it a good soak and swish in some mineral turpentine.
Yuki
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### Author:  [@Athr3e](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Athr3e)
#### Post date: [January 30, 2013, 1:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/trifecta/47969/31 "2013-01-30T01:03:24Z")
i use paslode cordles electronics cleaner, it works like acetone amd mineral spirits but is super presurized wich makes it great at blowing things out. its like air in a can and mineral spirits together.
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